05-21-2013, 03:40 PM
The only REAL solution to the LFA problem will be biological control, because biological problems can only really be resolved using biological control. (unless you take the nuclear route)
Chemical control is a band-aid approach at best, and the only people really getting positive results are the hardware stores, garden shops, and other wholesalers and retailers who keep selling more and more chemicals as LFA continues to spread. (oh yes, and the state gets to keep tacking on 4.166% on all those chemical transactions)
Want a solution? let people and businesses and businesses write off up to $1000 a year in direct tax credits against their efforts to control LFA on their property. That might pique the curiosity of the State and they might actually get around to trying to find a biological solution for LFA.
In the meantime we continue to suffer...and they continue to spread.
As far as chemicals which have and have not worked so far: Started out cheapest with homemade boric acid-peanut butter-and sugar. But I probably used too much boric acid and later read that you have to keep it down at like 1/2 % or so or the ants won't eat it. Also tried those Terro traps and the liquid wick ones. Didn't work either. Finally broke down and tried Amdro, both the red and black and the green label ones. Didn't do anything and I think Amdro only works if you don't really have a severe infestation of LFA. Upon later reading and esp through the LFA Google group list it sounds like the poison in Amdro may be effective but the bait is not very effective. Perhaps rancid oil, and some people say the humidity in Puna air makes it go bad pretty soon after opening the container.
Decided to try synthetic pyrethroids because they kill quickly and effectively. Am now mostly using bifenthrin (? sp) which is also the active ingredient of Talstar P, but in a variety of products made by Bayer as well. Synthetic pyrethriods are potent neurotoxins but people and our warm blooded pets have livers to remove the toxins from our systems. Ants and other insects don't have livers so they die pretty quickly.
Also use Maxforce expensive granules from BEI inside the house where the dogs can't eat it for the ones that blow in from the neighbor lots. Samer poison as Amdro but much better bait.
Would love to try using Tango (s methoprene) recipe on the
littlefireant.com website because it is even less toxic to mammals than pyrethroids and over the long term would probably have better long term control, BUT the $650 price tag per 2 1/2 gal. is pretty high and the most walking around cash I ever have is a Jackson or two. Also, the network of LFA colonies here in mid HPP (ground zero)is huge and interconnected and unfortunately all those Albizzia lots owned by people somewhere else make great nurseries for LFA colonies. We WILL NOT be able to get successful control of LFA until we have a mechanism in place that allows trespass of unmaintained Albizzia lots, and this is really one of the things our State and Conunty governments should be focusing on. I am bordered by 2 Albizzia lots owned by people on Oahu who don't give a hoot and I can't afford to tend to their problems- but their problems blow onto my property every time the wind blows. This is exactly the sort of issue we need government for... but when is the last time you ever saw a government body think proactively?
Forgot to mention, s-methoprene (Tango) is a hormone disruptor which keeps the ants in a juvenile state so they can't reproduce- but atter application you have to wait for months for the adults to die off, and you may have to reapply every couple-few months to keep them immature. Not sure how this would affect our dwindling honeybee population......But it's all good, Right?
Chemical control is a band-aid approach at best, and the only people really getting positive results are the hardware stores, garden shops, and other wholesalers and retailers who keep selling more and more chemicals as LFA continues to spread. (oh yes, and the state gets to keep tacking on 4.166% on all those chemical transactions)
Want a solution? let people and businesses and businesses write off up to $1000 a year in direct tax credits against their efforts to control LFA on their property. That might pique the curiosity of the State and they might actually get around to trying to find a biological solution for LFA.
In the meantime we continue to suffer...and they continue to spread.
As far as chemicals which have and have not worked so far: Started out cheapest with homemade boric acid-peanut butter-and sugar. But I probably used too much boric acid and later read that you have to keep it down at like 1/2 % or so or the ants won't eat it. Also tried those Terro traps and the liquid wick ones. Didn't work either. Finally broke down and tried Amdro, both the red and black and the green label ones. Didn't do anything and I think Amdro only works if you don't really have a severe infestation of LFA. Upon later reading and esp through the LFA Google group list it sounds like the poison in Amdro may be effective but the bait is not very effective. Perhaps rancid oil, and some people say the humidity in Puna air makes it go bad pretty soon after opening the container.
Decided to try synthetic pyrethroids because they kill quickly and effectively. Am now mostly using bifenthrin (? sp) which is also the active ingredient of Talstar P, but in a variety of products made by Bayer as well. Synthetic pyrethriods are potent neurotoxins but people and our warm blooded pets have livers to remove the toxins from our systems. Ants and other insects don't have livers so they die pretty quickly.
Also use Maxforce expensive granules from BEI inside the house where the dogs can't eat it for the ones that blow in from the neighbor lots. Samer poison as Amdro but much better bait.
Would love to try using Tango (s methoprene) recipe on the
littlefireant.com website because it is even less toxic to mammals than pyrethroids and over the long term would probably have better long term control, BUT the $650 price tag per 2 1/2 gal. is pretty high and the most walking around cash I ever have is a Jackson or two. Also, the network of LFA colonies here in mid HPP (ground zero)is huge and interconnected and unfortunately all those Albizzia lots owned by people somewhere else make great nurseries for LFA colonies. We WILL NOT be able to get successful control of LFA until we have a mechanism in place that allows trespass of unmaintained Albizzia lots, and this is really one of the things our State and Conunty governments should be focusing on. I am bordered by 2 Albizzia lots owned by people on Oahu who don't give a hoot and I can't afford to tend to their problems- but their problems blow onto my property every time the wind blows. This is exactly the sort of issue we need government for... but when is the last time you ever saw a government body think proactively?
Forgot to mention, s-methoprene (Tango) is a hormone disruptor which keeps the ants in a juvenile state so they can't reproduce- but atter application you have to wait for months for the adults to die off, and you may have to reapply every couple-few months to keep them immature. Not sure how this would affect our dwindling honeybee population......But it's all good, Right?