06-14-2013, 12:45 PM
I don't know why but here goes:
My original post about $.50 for a bullet wasn't a reference in any way pro or anti, gun, ccw or whatever. It was a reference to the perpetrator having earned the extreme in punishment for his actions, assuming the story as related was true.
I didn't get any "hint" that anyone was suggesting they wouldn't intervene without a gun. However, an armed citizen might have been effective. It doesn't appear that anyone that was there was effective.
Assuming the story is true and accurately related, my take is this: Based on my understanding of Fl law and not bothering to research the Hawaiian equivalent, I see 3 charges of aggravated child abuse (a first degree felony) and at least one charge of attempted first degree capital murder (being only attempted it drops a degree to felony 1st and we are assuming it remained just attempted). Deadly force is certainly justified by both police or civilian, if necessary, to stop the crime in such a case (but not by civilian once the initial threat has passed).
If the police are not investigating the incident appropriate for it's seriousness, then somebody needs to be asking them why. That's also assuming it was actually reported as opposed to an anonymous phone call that was unable to be verified. Even if anonymous, there should have been a BOLO for the vehicle broadcast and a welfare check done on the child. If the license plate was good and an address associated with it, a welfare check on the child should have been done at that address, if not located with the initial BOLO (Be On the Look Out).
There ya go, that's my $.02. You can subtract it from the $.50.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
My original post about $.50 for a bullet wasn't a reference in any way pro or anti, gun, ccw or whatever. It was a reference to the perpetrator having earned the extreme in punishment for his actions, assuming the story as related was true.
I didn't get any "hint" that anyone was suggesting they wouldn't intervene without a gun. However, an armed citizen might have been effective. It doesn't appear that anyone that was there was effective.
Assuming the story is true and accurately related, my take is this: Based on my understanding of Fl law and not bothering to research the Hawaiian equivalent, I see 3 charges of aggravated child abuse (a first degree felony) and at least one charge of attempted first degree capital murder (being only attempted it drops a degree to felony 1st and we are assuming it remained just attempted). Deadly force is certainly justified by both police or civilian, if necessary, to stop the crime in such a case (but not by civilian once the initial threat has passed).
If the police are not investigating the incident appropriate for it's seriousness, then somebody needs to be asking them why. That's also assuming it was actually reported as opposed to an anonymous phone call that was unable to be verified. Even if anonymous, there should have been a BOLO for the vehicle broadcast and a welfare check done on the child. If the license plate was good and an address associated with it, a welfare check on the child should have been done at that address, if not located with the initial BOLO (Be On the Look Out).
There ya go, that's my $.02. You can subtract it from the $.50.
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Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
S. FL
Big Islander to be.