09-08-2013, 11:05 AM
"LOTS of feedback from the trades, the architects, and the homeowners. Not much of it listened too or implemented."
Why was that? What happened after the hearings were over? This is a political question and there is a political process to change it. Campaigns have been built on lesser issues. Aren't people whose livelihoods are in construction interested? But we're just ordinary people with our own interests and concerns that generally don't have much to do with construction. We're not trying to change the world here. As is often suggested to malihini on this forum and elsewhere I don't expect local folks, the county, or Hawai'i in general to conform to my desires. Life is short and we're just trying to get our construction accomplished, so I work for the best outcome for us, not only with the rules and regulations that we have to work under, but also with the people and culture that are here now. Never been unhappy with that approach but we are also willing to go to the mat if the situation calls for it. Whatever you think of this issue, it certainly doesn't rise to the nuttiness level of, for instance, the anti-GMO hysteria that the council is considering now.
"...then why not just F'ing do it yourself?"
Because we're not talking about you and your skills. We're talking about any knucklehead (great epithet!) walking up to the building department and saying they can do it themselves and demanding a permit. Some people are great at DIY, others need to be watched carefully. Don't think the building department can up front distinguish between them. And, for the record, even with a lot of DIY rural construction experience behind us, including building a house, there were many aspects of the plumbing and electrical work on our place here that I was more than happy to hand off to the professionals.
"...how many of the inspectors are certified inspectors?"
Wasn't aware there is any certification program for inspectors in the county. Is there? As someone who has been honored to be considered a professional in two different fields and coming from a science background where "standards" are a bedrock concept, I always experience a rather deep disappointment when I see or hear of professionals acting unprofessionally. And below them are those who sneak in a back door to get professional status. But it happens.
Why was that? What happened after the hearings were over? This is a political question and there is a political process to change it. Campaigns have been built on lesser issues. Aren't people whose livelihoods are in construction interested? But we're just ordinary people with our own interests and concerns that generally don't have much to do with construction. We're not trying to change the world here. As is often suggested to malihini on this forum and elsewhere I don't expect local folks, the county, or Hawai'i in general to conform to my desires. Life is short and we're just trying to get our construction accomplished, so I work for the best outcome for us, not only with the rules and regulations that we have to work under, but also with the people and culture that are here now. Never been unhappy with that approach but we are also willing to go to the mat if the situation calls for it. Whatever you think of this issue, it certainly doesn't rise to the nuttiness level of, for instance, the anti-GMO hysteria that the council is considering now.
"...then why not just F'ing do it yourself?"
Because we're not talking about you and your skills. We're talking about any knucklehead (great epithet!) walking up to the building department and saying they can do it themselves and demanding a permit. Some people are great at DIY, others need to be watched carefully. Don't think the building department can up front distinguish between them. And, for the record, even with a lot of DIY rural construction experience behind us, including building a house, there were many aspects of the plumbing and electrical work on our place here that I was more than happy to hand off to the professionals.
"...how many of the inspectors are certified inspectors?"
Wasn't aware there is any certification program for inspectors in the county. Is there? As someone who has been honored to be considered a professional in two different fields and coming from a science background where "standards" are a bedrock concept, I always experience a rather deep disappointment when I see or hear of professionals acting unprofessionally. And below them are those who sneak in a back door to get professional status. But it happens.