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Sen Ruderman, where is the proof
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Originally posted by OpenD

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Originally posted by Oneself

pesticides are ****ing poison.

Only to the organisms they are toxic to. Case in point, Bt pesticides are only toxic to certain insects, not at all to others. That should be a clue that they are not inherently toxic, but only specifically toxic. And the fact that they have been safely used by organic farmers for over 50 years, with no adverse effects, should be another clue.

Let's look at it from the other end of the picture. People safely eat many foods that are toxic to pets. As one example, you can kill a dog by feeding it just a few pieces of chocolate. In Colorado chocolate has been shown to be a safe and effective "pesticide" for controlling coyotes, while leaving other animals in the ecosphere unharmed.

This explanation of that effect explains why Bt pesticide is not a concern to people.

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The different toxicities have to do with the way different species metabolize the alkaloid; humans process it much more efficiently than canines. And in small amounts, theobromine’s effects can make it medically useful. But even here, it shows complexity. It increases heart rate and at the same time it dilates blood vessels, acting to bring down blood pressure. It can also open up airways and is under study as a cough medication. It stimulates urine production and is considered a diuretic. It interacts with the central nervous system, although not as effectively as caffeine.

http://blogs.plos.org/speakeasyscience/2...chocolate/

And let's not overlook the fact that many homeopathic medicines start out as highly toxic substances that are diluted down.

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How are we even having this conversation ?!?

It's simple. Because after more than 20 years on the market... long enough that the original soybean patents have already expired... there still is no credible evidence that there is any danger from GMOs, and the majority of scientists consider GMOs generally to be safe.

And that is the simple truth that anti-GMO advocates cannot overcome, so they have invented all kinds of bogus propaganda to try to bury it under.


Everything you've said is completely inaccurate. you are just spouting off old wives tales. At this point your just lying or you arent educated on the subject matter you speak of.

1- FACT -It would take a dog of medium size to eat 1-3 pounds of bakers 85% or more cacao chocolate to cause serious damages. That amount of chocolate would make any one sick.

2- just because there hasnt been studies, doesnt mean its not true.
Anyone who was able to tie their shoes all by themself in high school, can understand that poison, any form is harmful to a degree.

If you are suggesting that the round up and other pesticides are not harmful to humans, than why are they spraying them in HAZMAT suits ?

you have to be kidding me. SMDH.
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Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Richard Ha - 01-15-2014, 07:37 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-15-2014, 08:24 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by hikatz - 01-15-2014, 09:03 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-15-2014, 09:12 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by hikatz - 01-15-2014, 09:39 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-15-2014, 10:26 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-15-2014, 11:46 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-15-2014, 11:55 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 12:02 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 12:26 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 12:41 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 01:11 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 01:20 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Russell - 01-15-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 01:37 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 01:48 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-15-2014, 01:51 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-15-2014, 03:42 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-15-2014, 04:18 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by davidr - 01-15-2014, 05:14 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by ourdoc - 01-15-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-15-2014, 11:30 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-15-2014, 11:42 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-15-2014, 11:46 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 02:08 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by ericlp - 01-16-2014, 02:20 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-16-2014, 02:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-16-2014, 02:25 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 02:47 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-16-2014, 04:29 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-16-2014, 05:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-16-2014, 06:35 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-16-2014, 06:53 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 09:53 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 10:19 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-16-2014, 11:10 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-16-2014, 11:32 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by steve1 - 01-16-2014, 11:39 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-16-2014, 04:26 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-16-2014, 04:41 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 01-16-2014, 04:54 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-16-2014, 05:00 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-17-2014, 01:38 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-17-2014, 02:44 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 01-17-2014, 03:27 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 03:47 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-17-2014, 04:12 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-17-2014, 04:23 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 01-17-2014, 04:47 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 05:13 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 05:17 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 06:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 06:13 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 01-17-2014, 06:15 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 07:09 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 07:33 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 08:38 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-17-2014, 09:25 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 01-17-2014, 09:45 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 10:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 10:25 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-17-2014, 05:10 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-17-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by OpenD - 01-17-2014, 05:27 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 07:57 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 08:00 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Permie - 01-17-2014, 08:10 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-17-2014, 11:52 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-17-2014, 11:57 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by TomK - 01-18-2014, 07:47 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-20-2014, 04:05 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Russell - 01-20-2014, 05:03 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-20-2014, 05:12 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-20-2014, 05:23 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-20-2014, 05:28 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by rbrgs - 01-21-2014, 06:26 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by robguz - 01-21-2014, 05:19 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-22-2014, 12:24 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by rbrgs - 01-22-2014, 05:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Russell - 01-22-2014, 05:26 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 01-22-2014, 06:11 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-22-2014, 07:53 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-22-2014, 11:56 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-22-2014, 02:45 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-22-2014, 02:50 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-22-2014, 02:51 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-23-2014, 03:04 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-23-2014, 03:19 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-23-2014, 07:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-23-2014, 07:27 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-23-2014, 07:51 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-23-2014, 08:04 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 01-23-2014, 08:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by DaVinci - 01-23-2014, 09:35 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by TomK - 01-23-2014, 06:24 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-23-2014, 09:08 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-23-2014, 09:13 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-23-2014, 09:22 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-23-2014, 09:44 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-24-2014, 12:18 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-24-2014, 03:25 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-24-2014, 03:30 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-24-2014, 03:47 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-24-2014, 04:22 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-24-2014, 04:37 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 01-24-2014, 05:29 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-25-2014, 02:12 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by dldixon - 01-25-2014, 01:28 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-26-2014, 02:26 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-26-2014, 06:57 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by dldixon - 01-26-2014, 07:06 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by dldixon - 01-26-2014, 10:03 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by dldixon - 01-26-2014, 03:12 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-26-2014, 04:49 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 01-26-2014, 11:56 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-27-2014, 09:48 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-28-2014, 05:16 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by dldixon - 01-28-2014, 05:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 01-29-2014, 06:11 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-29-2014, 06:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by snorkle - 01-29-2014, 06:54 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-29-2014, 07:15 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 01-29-2014, 07:35 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by TomK - 01-29-2014, 07:05 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by TomK - 01-29-2014, 08:00 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by TomK - 01-30-2014, 06:10 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 02-05-2014, 06:56 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 02:21 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 02:33 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 02:44 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 03:11 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 04:02 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by dldixon - 02-06-2014, 04:08 AM
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RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 05:08 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 05:12 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 05:30 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 02-06-2014, 05:43 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-06-2014, 11:54 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 02-06-2014, 12:28 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by wax - 02-06-2014, 12:40 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 02-09-2014, 06:15 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 02-12-2014, 11:40 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 02-12-2014, 01:05 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 02-12-2014, 01:16 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Obie - 02-13-2014, 04:56 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Guest - 02-13-2014, 06:46 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by kalakoa - 02-13-2014, 06:51 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by Russell - 02-13-2014, 04:50 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by PaulW - 02-13-2014, 05:21 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by jerry - 02-18-2014, 12:35 PM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 02-19-2014, 03:35 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 02-19-2014, 06:16 AM
RE: Sen Ruderman, where is the proof - by geochem - 02-19-2014, 06:55 AM
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