01-18-2014, 06:16 AM
Sounds like there's a lot of hate on this thread. Too bad that anonymous people typing on a keyboard behave so differently than in person.
Once again someone posted a political thread on the Punatalk forum, rather than in the politics forum where it probably belongs. Maybe there should be a forum for self appointed experts and windbags because that seems to be pretty popular these days on Punaweb.
Back to the original posting: I seriously doubt that Josh Green is pandering to the "anti-GMO people" as "bystander" suggests. Green's concept of banning glyphosate containing products is probably political suicide so I would think he is basing his opposition on a combination of ethics, scientific observation, and a desire to care for the Aina and the creatures it supports.
Many people mistakenly believe and then parrot back the statement that roundup is totally safe without any scientific proof. Rather you are just repeating what the corporate marketers want you to believe.
Personally I have been a licensed pesticide applicator (both private and public) in 3 different states for over 20 years and one of the worst things I have witnessed about the use of Roundup and it's sister herbicides is how careless and indifferent it makes the majority of the population behave. Here in HPP you can regularly see a couple of guys who work for the hui driving around with a sprayer in tow, shooting pesticide at some of the weeds along the roadside. They seem to have no concept of wind direction or spray drift and frankly seem to be doing a pretty poor job of controlling noxious roadside vegetation. Some of this may be due to their spraying while it is raining and some to abject carelessness but the result is the same: wasting pesticides by spraying off-target and environmental pollution. It is clear that they do not follow the label as required by Federal Law because they spray in the rain, do not keep people and pets out of treated areas until the spray residue dries, and pay no attention to the spray drift they are creating.
Unfortunately the careless attitude about glyphosate spraying has led to many people publicly spraying pesticides in shorts and slippers, without gloves or eye protection and showing a general disregard for what they are doing. And unfortunately while many people mistakenly thing that glyphosate is safe as mother's milk they are terribly wrong. Just because it doesn't kill you today doesn't mean that it's safe and recent evidence suggests that it may cause cancers 20 or more years later.
Regardless, I do not believe Roundup should be banned but rather used responsibly by trained experts. Sort of like antibiotic use. I like trained doctors prescribing specific antibiotics for specific infections but am very afraid of farmers regularly dumping antibiotics into animal feed as a prophylactic measure. It's one of the reasons why we have so many virulent antibiotic resistant diseases these days.
Once again someone posted a political thread on the Punatalk forum, rather than in the politics forum where it probably belongs. Maybe there should be a forum for self appointed experts and windbags because that seems to be pretty popular these days on Punaweb.
Back to the original posting: I seriously doubt that Josh Green is pandering to the "anti-GMO people" as "bystander" suggests. Green's concept of banning glyphosate containing products is probably political suicide so I would think he is basing his opposition on a combination of ethics, scientific observation, and a desire to care for the Aina and the creatures it supports.
Many people mistakenly believe and then parrot back the statement that roundup is totally safe without any scientific proof. Rather you are just repeating what the corporate marketers want you to believe.
Personally I have been a licensed pesticide applicator (both private and public) in 3 different states for over 20 years and one of the worst things I have witnessed about the use of Roundup and it's sister herbicides is how careless and indifferent it makes the majority of the population behave. Here in HPP you can regularly see a couple of guys who work for the hui driving around with a sprayer in tow, shooting pesticide at some of the weeds along the roadside. They seem to have no concept of wind direction or spray drift and frankly seem to be doing a pretty poor job of controlling noxious roadside vegetation. Some of this may be due to their spraying while it is raining and some to abject carelessness but the result is the same: wasting pesticides by spraying off-target and environmental pollution. It is clear that they do not follow the label as required by Federal Law because they spray in the rain, do not keep people and pets out of treated areas until the spray residue dries, and pay no attention to the spray drift they are creating.
Unfortunately the careless attitude about glyphosate spraying has led to many people publicly spraying pesticides in shorts and slippers, without gloves or eye protection and showing a general disregard for what they are doing. And unfortunately while many people mistakenly thing that glyphosate is safe as mother's milk they are terribly wrong. Just because it doesn't kill you today doesn't mean that it's safe and recent evidence suggests that it may cause cancers 20 or more years later.
Regardless, I do not believe Roundup should be banned but rather used responsibly by trained experts. Sort of like antibiotic use. I like trained doctors prescribing specific antibiotics for specific infections but am very afraid of farmers regularly dumping antibiotics into animal feed as a prophylactic measure. It's one of the reasons why we have so many virulent antibiotic resistant diseases these days.