Sen Ruderman, where is the proof

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Originally posted by peteadams

Wao nahele kane contributed:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14552382
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23146697

Pubmed is an NIH service that provides abstracts of professional journals. These are not studies produced or endorsed by the U.S. government.

The study in the first link showed a Bt gene present in analysis of pig gut contents fed Bt corn. I'm sure you also noted with enthusiasm and great excitement that "Fragments of corn zein (242 bp), invertase (226 bp) and of ribulose-1,5-bisphosphate carboxylase/ oxygenase genes (1,028 bp) were detected in the gastrointestinal contents of both Bt11 and nongenetically modified corn-fed pigs." (?) Your point? Bt exists in the environment? Since the organic food industry enthusiastically splashes Bt toxins on food for pest control there have been many studies that show Bt has no particular human toxicity. The authors also note their study "precluded conclusions about any potential absorption of the protein." They also did not note any tumors in the pigs.

The second link was not a study, but Seralini's defense of what many scientists considered an indefensible study, a study which was finally retracted by its journal publisher. Your point? Interesting here is that Seralini states that he needs Monsanto's own experimental results to fully explore the topic.

Finally, this pointing to this study or that experiment is often highly misleading. Much like citing anecdotes from your family (as Rand Paul did recently, stating that there was no Republican war on women because female members of his family were doing just fine!), science does not make conclusions based on a few isolated studies or personal anecdotes. As we have pointed out repeatedly, there is a large body of evidence from many disciplines, including independent, non-corporate funded academic studies if you are suspicious of corporations, that point entirely to the concept that because a food is a GMO does not mean it is in any way toxic. That Brenda Ford and Jeffery Smith have different opinions and beliefs does not change this outcome.

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You can place all of your confidence in a few scientists, that is your right I guess.

"Man who occupies but one small corner of the universe can never hope to fully understand the world in which he lives, he persists nonetheless in the illusion that he has the cosmos in the palm of his hand. Man is not in a position to know nature."-Masanobu Fukuoka "The Natural Way of Farming".

Man verses nature is the scientific method. Man working in harmony with nature (permaculture)is true understanding.