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SB2274-Sustainable Living
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Below is a letter that was forwarded to me this morning that Senator Ruderman wrote to constituents please look at the part where he says:

" Please accept my apologies – I was mistaken when I said the bill (SB2274) was for a special use permit. I had read an earlier version of the bill and not thoroughly read the latest draft. The bill has changed several times in the last few weeks."

I would like to point out that bypassing the special use permit was in the original bill that Senator Ruderman introduced not the amended versions as he claims in the quote above. So what is he talking about? Senator Ruderman's email proves that he did not even know the contents of his own legislation that he introduced.

From: "Sen. Russell Ruderman" <senruderman@capitol.hawaii.gov>
Subject: RE: clarification about contradicting statements to SB2274
Date: March 13, 2014 9:19:56 AM HST
To: <deleted by moderator>

Aloha Mr. & Mrs. <deleted by moderator>,
Please accept my apologies – I was mistaken when I said the bill was for a special use permit. I had read an earlier version of the bill and not thoroughly read the latest draft. The bill has changed several times in the last few weeks.

You are correct- this bill would be an alternative to the SUP process, not a step along the way as I had thought.

There would still be an opportunity for the community to express its opposition to the planning department after a notice is published about the new permit request.

I think it’s unlikely that Seaview would be the first such research test site, since there is so much concern in your community about it. I would guess that a non-controversial site will be the first test case.
I cannot guarantee this, of course, but surely the planning department is well aware of your concerns and will proceed with great caution.

The bill would not legalize all the activities you mention. The bill creates an application process. What is permissible in each case would be up to the Planning Department in reviewing the application to determine which activities are allowable.

Again I sincerely apologize for my error. I was not intentionally misleading anyone; I was simply incorrect about the most recently drafted form of the bill.

Thank you for writing to me with such a respectful tone, and giving me the opportunity to answer your questions. It is greatly appreciated!


Mahalo,

Senator Russell E Ruderman
Hawaii State Senate
senruderman@capitol.hawaii.gov
808-586-6890
Toll free from the Big Island (808) 974-4000 ext. 6-6890
415 S. Beretania St. Room 217
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

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SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-16-2014, 06:08 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-16-2014, 07:39 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-17-2014, 03:48 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by peteadams - 03-17-2014, 06:48 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Russell - 03-17-2014, 06:57 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-17-2014, 07:48 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-17-2014, 08:51 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Russell - 03-17-2014, 09:04 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Chunkster - 03-17-2014, 09:08 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by rainyjim - 03-17-2014, 10:13 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Russell - 03-17-2014, 10:15 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 03-17-2014, 01:35 PM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Guest - 03-18-2014, 08:11 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-26-2014, 12:57 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kjlpahoa - 03-26-2014, 01:12 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 03-26-2014, 01:46 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 03-26-2014, 03:22 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by kalakoa - 05-01-2014, 04:11 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 05-01-2014, 08:00 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Guest - 05-01-2014, 08:30 AM
RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Rob Tucker - 05-01-2014, 08:41 AM
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RE: SB2274-Sustainable Living - by Guest - 07-02-2014, 06:08 AM
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