07-06-2014, 03:22 AM
its NOT the point that they cut endemic trees down or that they were the very common Ohia, the POINT is that lying fool Ellis cut down big trees NOT on his property, on state land, and then used them for his profit (building crap he rented out to wwoofers)
If you buy a large cleaned Ohia log legally (from private property), it can cost over $500ea. for a nice large ohia pole.... if you look at all those telephone pole sized logs in that photo from last year when they were debarking and sanding the logs at SPACE/Bellyacres, it doesnt take much of a mind to see that they (Ellis etc.) dont care about the Hawaiian environment at all.... all those trees were 'oldgrowth' 100++ yr old trees, every single one of them in that pic, and everyone that makes up the SPACE building etc.
I was a heavy supporter of SPACE and bellyacres and introduced dozens of newbies to both places (wwoofers and tourists) and even have Ellis and many as friends on FB, but I change my feelings towards that community and those who try to back up Ellis and being sustainable ...thats all bigtime BS!
on top of that the guy was warned years ago, and didnt move on the warnings...
funny/strange thing is now that SPACE is moved to Uncles on Sat morning, now I see that some of Uncles R Kelihoomalu family dont want it there and have posted many messages to boycott/dont support 'OuterSPACE' and the people involved with it.... Id like to hear more why some of the Keliihoomalu clan feel so strongly even before the 1st Sat OuterSPACE...
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
If you buy a large cleaned Ohia log legally (from private property), it can cost over $500ea. for a nice large ohia pole.... if you look at all those telephone pole sized logs in that photo from last year when they were debarking and sanding the logs at SPACE/Bellyacres, it doesnt take much of a mind to see that they (Ellis etc.) dont care about the Hawaiian environment at all.... all those trees were 'oldgrowth' 100++ yr old trees, every single one of them in that pic, and everyone that makes up the SPACE building etc.
I was a heavy supporter of SPACE and bellyacres and introduced dozens of newbies to both places (wwoofers and tourists) and even have Ellis and many as friends on FB, but I change my feelings towards that community and those who try to back up Ellis and being sustainable ...thats all bigtime BS!
on top of that the guy was warned years ago, and didnt move on the warnings...
funny/strange thing is now that SPACE is moved to Uncles on Sat morning, now I see that some of Uncles R Kelihoomalu family dont want it there and have posted many messages to boycott/dont support 'OuterSPACE' and the people involved with it.... Id like to hear more why some of the Keliihoomalu clan feel so strongly even before the 1st Sat OuterSPACE...
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha