08-02-2014, 03:31 PM
This is true, pahoated: (*Snipped from above)
"There is the Old Kingdom group that wants to use lineage to Kamehameha and earlier to determine who is a native Hawaiian. They also want a return to the ancient Hawaiian religion. These are the ones opting out of the roll call and often the ones with the highest percentage unemployed, in prison or having felony records."
However, being of the Kamehameha lineage, I respectfully disagree with this concept. I opted out of the roll call, as it dictates what is not in the best interest of all kanaka maoli, not for the reason stated.
For the record, I am duly employed, not in prison, nor have a felony record. I disagree completely with the notion that only people with Hawaiian blood (over 50%) are qualified to be a "Hawaiian national".
In the old days, you were either royalty or a slave. No thank you! I don't want to be a "Royal", and don't want anyone serving me, nor would I "serve" anyone except my kupuna.
Some of us stand with one foot in "Christianity" and one foot in the old "religion", no matter if Republican or Democrat (no bearing whatsoever). I pray to Akua and my kupuna always because my Aunty Emma DeFries stated, "I have more power than your Kahu (at church)", and she did. So I pray to her and my other kupuna. I also recite the Lord's Prayer.
To put things in perspective, we can never go back to the ruling of Ali'i (The time you speak of) in the barbaric sense. Again, the question is, where do we go from here?
Puna is a prime example of our challenge. WTH is going on with Rainbow people, others who try to "protect" our native rights, using our language as it makes them "local" (which is appalling to me), and more.
Carol, I would be honored, in fact, am honored to be asked. Let me know when you have time after the "start of school rush".
lavalava, mahalo for the comment, however, NO WAY am I qualified to do Carol's work. Our teachers are a rare breed, and we should all have the utmost respect for our teachers. Appreciate the interest in our (all of us, not just kanaka maoli) quest for peace and common ground. Lots to discuss, and may we all learn through this effort.
Pahoated, you do have good mana'o. Pardon my dissertation as we go through this exercise. It may go nowhere (as decades have been spent "righting a wrong"), but the knowledge you, Carol, and others hold will help digest information as we all make decisions and form opinions.
E kala mai (again) for the long post. Obviously, this is a grave and personal issue for myself and my ohana.
JMO.
"There is the Old Kingdom group that wants to use lineage to Kamehameha and earlier to determine who is a native Hawaiian. They also want a return to the ancient Hawaiian religion. These are the ones opting out of the roll call and often the ones with the highest percentage unemployed, in prison or having felony records."
However, being of the Kamehameha lineage, I respectfully disagree with this concept. I opted out of the roll call, as it dictates what is not in the best interest of all kanaka maoli, not for the reason stated.
For the record, I am duly employed, not in prison, nor have a felony record. I disagree completely with the notion that only people with Hawaiian blood (over 50%) are qualified to be a "Hawaiian national".
In the old days, you were either royalty or a slave. No thank you! I don't want to be a "Royal", and don't want anyone serving me, nor would I "serve" anyone except my kupuna.
Some of us stand with one foot in "Christianity" and one foot in the old "religion", no matter if Republican or Democrat (no bearing whatsoever). I pray to Akua and my kupuna always because my Aunty Emma DeFries stated, "I have more power than your Kahu (at church)", and she did. So I pray to her and my other kupuna. I also recite the Lord's Prayer.
To put things in perspective, we can never go back to the ruling of Ali'i (The time you speak of) in the barbaric sense. Again, the question is, where do we go from here?
Puna is a prime example of our challenge. WTH is going on with Rainbow people, others who try to "protect" our native rights, using our language as it makes them "local" (which is appalling to me), and more.
Carol, I would be honored, in fact, am honored to be asked. Let me know when you have time after the "start of school rush".
lavalava, mahalo for the comment, however, NO WAY am I qualified to do Carol's work. Our teachers are a rare breed, and we should all have the utmost respect for our teachers. Appreciate the interest in our (all of us, not just kanaka maoli) quest for peace and common ground. Lots to discuss, and may we all learn through this effort.
Pahoated, you do have good mana'o. Pardon my dissertation as we go through this exercise. It may go nowhere (as decades have been spent "righting a wrong"), but the knowledge you, Carol, and others hold will help digest information as we all make decisions and form opinions.
E kala mai (again) for the long post. Obviously, this is a grave and personal issue for myself and my ohana.
JMO.