09-20-2014, 04:02 PM
[quote]Originally posted by csgray
mermaid53: "Why isn't JC and her cabal providing the minutes? " "Why don't you sign up next time? It's a thankless job, don't you think?"
Both of these quotes are what is called deflection, when a question is avoided by asking a different question or accusing the questioner.
This HPPOA board has not posted any meeting since they were seated, including from any meetings related to the firings. They are now the board, they are the ones who took drastic actions without revealing the motions made, motions amended, votes taken, and motions passed that resulted in those actions.
Quit deflecting, and get your dear buddies on the board to do their jobs and generate some accurate minutes for the meetings since they were seated. The longer they wait the more people think they have something to hide.
Carol
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I wasn't deflecting..those are questions I'd like answers to. I think the group who illegally took over the Special Membership Meeting should provide everyone with the minutes since they wrote the agenda and ran the excruciating long meeting. Where are the results of the several district recall vote petitions and why haven't the members heard the results yet? I'd like to know if that meeting was null and void in the end which logically would make the petitions null and void.
Please any one, sign up for a board position next year, or if one opens up before then as they often do. If you have big business and road experience and think you can do a better job, please step forward. The association's always hurting for volunteers and you can see why. A place this size needs qualified volunteers.
We all know by now the new board's in mediation and can't discuss the details of the firings. They did say at an early meeting that it was their fiduciary duty as board members to handle things when they see wrong doing. We all were given what information they are allowed to give us at this time. We were told that they'd let us know the details when the board is free to do so. So can't we all sit tight meanwhile?
As for the minutes not being posted Carol, there are July "drafts" for 2 meetings on the website. The recording secretary is relatively new as well as the board secretary. I've lost count how many disrupted meetings there's been so far. You need to have board meetings to approve the last month's minutes before posting the approved minutes on HPP's website. The new board's 1st board meeting was in July so we're talking about 2 mos now with storm Iselle and the Emergency Access Meeting last Wednesday in the mix.
Unfortunately, it's been business as usual to be delayed in posting minutes in the history of this association's boards. The previous board has done this numerous times as well, months behind. The GM's report was supposed to be posted monthly and by the time of his termination, I believe the last GM Report posted was October 2013. And he was a paid employee, not a volunteer. If you've been keeping up, you'll see this is all true, not correct, but typical.
June 2013's minutes are still a "draft" for reasons I gave in an earlier post. Jan 2014's wasn't posted until 3-4 mos later after it was brought to the previous board's attention and p.3 is missing. The GM's report is missing, p.3?, where his request for an expensive tool was approved that night by the majority board. Some owners present were visibly disgusted about the high price tag but had no say.
Board members are volunteers, it's not a paid job, and I believe the intent of most board members is to try to do things timely but isn't always the case. I do understand when you say it appears they are trying to hide something by not posting minutes in a timely way. Hopefully they'll have time soon without interruptions to catch up.
mermaid53: "Why isn't JC and her cabal providing the minutes? " "Why don't you sign up next time? It's a thankless job, don't you think?"
Both of these quotes are what is called deflection, when a question is avoided by asking a different question or accusing the questioner.
This HPPOA board has not posted any meeting since they were seated, including from any meetings related to the firings. They are now the board, they are the ones who took drastic actions without revealing the motions made, motions amended, votes taken, and motions passed that resulted in those actions.
Quit deflecting, and get your dear buddies on the board to do their jobs and generate some accurate minutes for the meetings since they were seated. The longer they wait the more people think they have something to hide.
Carol
edited for spelling
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I wasn't deflecting..those are questions I'd like answers to. I think the group who illegally took over the Special Membership Meeting should provide everyone with the minutes since they wrote the agenda and ran the excruciating long meeting. Where are the results of the several district recall vote petitions and why haven't the members heard the results yet? I'd like to know if that meeting was null and void in the end which logically would make the petitions null and void.
Please any one, sign up for a board position next year, or if one opens up before then as they often do. If you have big business and road experience and think you can do a better job, please step forward. The association's always hurting for volunteers and you can see why. A place this size needs qualified volunteers.
We all know by now the new board's in mediation and can't discuss the details of the firings. They did say at an early meeting that it was their fiduciary duty as board members to handle things when they see wrong doing. We all were given what information they are allowed to give us at this time. We were told that they'd let us know the details when the board is free to do so. So can't we all sit tight meanwhile?
As for the minutes not being posted Carol, there are July "drafts" for 2 meetings on the website. The recording secretary is relatively new as well as the board secretary. I've lost count how many disrupted meetings there's been so far. You need to have board meetings to approve the last month's minutes before posting the approved minutes on HPP's website. The new board's 1st board meeting was in July so we're talking about 2 mos now with storm Iselle and the Emergency Access Meeting last Wednesday in the mix.
Unfortunately, it's been business as usual to be delayed in posting minutes in the history of this association's boards. The previous board has done this numerous times as well, months behind. The GM's report was supposed to be posted monthly and by the time of his termination, I believe the last GM Report posted was October 2013. And he was a paid employee, not a volunteer. If you've been keeping up, you'll see this is all true, not correct, but typical.
June 2013's minutes are still a "draft" for reasons I gave in an earlier post. Jan 2014's wasn't posted until 3-4 mos later after it was brought to the previous board's attention and p.3 is missing. The GM's report is missing, p.3?, where his request for an expensive tool was approved that night by the majority board. Some owners present were visibly disgusted about the high price tag but had no say.
Board members are volunteers, it's not a paid job, and I believe the intent of most board members is to try to do things timely but isn't always the case. I do understand when you say it appears they are trying to hide something by not posting minutes in a timely way. Hopefully they'll have time soon without interruptions to catch up.