11-13-2014, 09:50 AM
Well, yeah, but I would hope we of this County don't want to use Ann Coulter as an example of how we want our justice system to work out locally. Can we not be better than that?
There's a good case on intent and voter fraud in Hawai'i that discusses this element. Read it and see what you think.
Voter fraud is different from the check case, because the affidavits Tiffany AND Jeff Hunt signed laid out the legal consequences for providing false information right on the face of the document. The document also states definitely that a business address is not acceptable. Failure to read a document like that and clarify any confusion is on the person who signs it.
Tiffany is a native English speaker who has followed elections carefully, who has published at least once about voter registration fraud, who has stated her knowledge of the law as a strong point in her pursuit of public office. She is in an extremely weak position for pleading ignorance as a defense.
She has also published her own comments stating how extremely important it is to her to cast HER vote where she thinks it will count. Unlike snorkle. She has publicly stated that it was very important to her, and this was regarding one of the elections where she was registered out of district. All of which the police have .. perhaps her motives were not strictly rational, and she was not likely to change the outcome with that one vote (actually two votes, as her husband also reregistered), but as leilanidude points out, the law doesn't require that voter fraud be effective in its purpose. It does not even require a known motive.
Otherwise the law would contain a clause requiring proof that the fraud changed the outcome or was likely to change the outcome of a race, but there is no such element to the crime, which snorkle would know if he had read the legal elements posted in topics here.
The law requires that you knowingly sign the affidavit of residence. It does not require an intent to defraud. For example, someone who does not speak or read English, who signs the affidavit, someone who was drugged and led to the place of filing, and so forth, can use as defense they did not know what they were doing.
Registering to vote and competently filling out registration, or asking for assistance from a clerk over any confusion, should be in the skill set of every adult American citizen. If the process required full knowledge of every nuance of the law, you'd need to complete a seminar before proceeding. It's a simple question, state your legal residence.
When Tiffany registered to vote with the Jeff Hunt Surfboards address, it was something like the SIXTH time she had changed her voter registration address while living in Hawai'i, not even counting any in Wyoming. She was no novice to the process.
Kathy
There's a good case on intent and voter fraud in Hawai'i that discusses this element. Read it and see what you think.
Voter fraud is different from the check case, because the affidavits Tiffany AND Jeff Hunt signed laid out the legal consequences for providing false information right on the face of the document. The document also states definitely that a business address is not acceptable. Failure to read a document like that and clarify any confusion is on the person who signs it.
Tiffany is a native English speaker who has followed elections carefully, who has published at least once about voter registration fraud, who has stated her knowledge of the law as a strong point in her pursuit of public office. She is in an extremely weak position for pleading ignorance as a defense.
She has also published her own comments stating how extremely important it is to her to cast HER vote where she thinks it will count. Unlike snorkle. She has publicly stated that it was very important to her, and this was regarding one of the elections where she was registered out of district. All of which the police have .. perhaps her motives were not strictly rational, and she was not likely to change the outcome with that one vote (actually two votes, as her husband also reregistered), but as leilanidude points out, the law doesn't require that voter fraud be effective in its purpose. It does not even require a known motive.
Otherwise the law would contain a clause requiring proof that the fraud changed the outcome or was likely to change the outcome of a race, but there is no such element to the crime, which snorkle would know if he had read the legal elements posted in topics here.
The law requires that you knowingly sign the affidavit of residence. It does not require an intent to defraud. For example, someone who does not speak or read English, who signs the affidavit, someone who was drugged and led to the place of filing, and so forth, can use as defense they did not know what they were doing.
Registering to vote and competently filling out registration, or asking for assistance from a clerk over any confusion, should be in the skill set of every adult American citizen. If the process required full knowledge of every nuance of the law, you'd need to complete a seminar before proceeding. It's a simple question, state your legal residence.
When Tiffany registered to vote with the Jeff Hunt Surfboards address, it was something like the SIXTH time she had changed her voter registration address while living in Hawai'i, not even counting any in Wyoming. She was no novice to the process.
Kathy