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PGV plans new well
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Originally posted by PunaMauka2

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Originally posted by dakine

"The history of geothermal in Hawaii varies a bit based on who's telling the story.."

".. but it does do one good to try and gain some perspective on how we got here."

The original Geothermal Energy.. which I believe was the first extensive study of geothermal in Hawaii is here:

http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bit...energy.pdf

and is well worth the read for the development of an understanding of what's going on.

Further, Jim Kauahikaua's (USGS) Volcanic Activity and Ground Deformation Hazard Analysis for the Hawaii Geothermal Project Environmental Impact Statement goes into greater detail from a volcanological perspective, and can be found here:

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1994/0553/report.pdf

There is also a short paper, entitled The History of Geothermal Development in Hawaii, by Puna Pono Alliance here:

http://punapono.com/docs/eddocs/3.pdf

that simplifies, but still gives a historical overview of geothermal energy development in Hawaii.

And of course Google is filled with others and it's worth the effort to read through some of them if one wants to develop an educated opinion on the subject.


like the idea of reading up a bit on the topic from an array of quality sources. particularly interested in that UH Manoa document.

i wish the Punapono one could provide a good source for added views. unfortunately it feels as if Punapono is virtually bursting at the seams in it's language trying to persuade the reader at every opportunity with viewpoints heavily activated into an agenda approach. not confident in trusting the validity of many of the statements. i don't want to be propagandized to, thank you. perhaps there is something with a more legitimate educational quality out there to represent a more cautious or opposing position.


Punapono works in conjunction with Bob Patricci(sp?)who won a lawsuit against geothermal as an adjoining neighbor. He seems quite bright and said he works with geothermal education all over the world. Punapono seemed to have cultural/religious reasons for opposing geothermal in a historically sacred rainforest.

Unfortunately when you are looking at possible big money making ventures, private and government documentation can be selective and biased. For example, state of Hawaii still to this day has not done conclusive testing on the effects of vog on human health. They have not yet addressed the myriad of possible pollutants including heavy metals in the mix in any study to date. Why? It would scare away the tourists? I don't know.

I spoke with the head of Clean Air branch of the Healthy dept in Honolulu recently in regards to which type of air purifier would be best to use given the current pollutants. It was so bizarre, he said he doesn't recommend different types it's up the individual to decide??? I again asked for non-patented methodology, don't recommend brands just which of the many types of air purifiers works for vog and smoke. He didn't have a clue or had a strange hidden reason not to tell me. He gave me zero advice or help on even understanding what we are breathing here.

Good luck on finding your unbiased studies.
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PGV plans new well - by Opihikaobob - 12-25-2014, 06:32 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by snorkle - 12-25-2014, 07:58 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-26-2014, 03:21 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kander - 12-26-2014, 07:45 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Opihikaobob - 12-26-2014, 11:40 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 12-26-2014, 02:44 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-26-2014, 02:46 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by CraftyLady - 12-26-2014, 04:59 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by JohnDW - 12-26-2014, 08:46 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 12-27-2014, 04:19 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Rob Tucker - 12-27-2014, 04:39 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by bananahead - 12-27-2014, 06:20 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 12-27-2014, 07:58 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-27-2014, 08:06 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 12-27-2014, 09:22 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punaperson - 12-27-2014, 10:36 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by waawaawah - 12-27-2014, 12:41 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-27-2014, 12:57 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 12-27-2014, 01:36 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by faroutsider - 12-27-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punaperson - 12-27-2014, 02:01 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by JohnDW - 12-27-2014, 03:13 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-27-2014, 04:51 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by steve1 - 12-27-2014, 05:45 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by JohnDW - 12-27-2014, 06:19 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-27-2014, 07:06 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 12-28-2014, 06:54 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-28-2014, 06:57 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by norris - 12-28-2014, 09:02 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-28-2014, 10:44 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by norris - 12-28-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Rattlestaff - 12-28-2014, 06:14 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-28-2014, 10:15 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Rattlestaff - 12-29-2014, 03:32 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Rene Siracusa - 12-29-2014, 06:49 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-29-2014, 06:56 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-29-2014, 06:59 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 12-29-2014, 07:09 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 12-29-2014, 07:40 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-29-2014, 07:52 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Kilikakai - 12-29-2014, 07:55 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Opihikaobob - 12-29-2014, 10:19 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Jay Bondesen - 12-29-2014, 11:00 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 12-29-2014, 01:23 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 12-29-2014, 02:12 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by opihikao - 12-29-2014, 04:08 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-29-2014, 04:18 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by opihikao - 12-29-2014, 04:31 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-30-2014, 03:20 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 12-30-2014, 04:05 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 12-30-2014, 04:18 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-30-2014, 04:39 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by opihikao - 12-30-2014, 04:52 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 12-30-2014, 05:24 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 12-30-2014, 05:31 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 12-30-2014, 05:52 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by opihikao - 12-30-2014, 06:04 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Rob Tucker - 12-30-2014, 06:05 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 12-30-2014, 06:21 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-30-2014, 06:55 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 12-30-2014, 07:01 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 12-30-2014, 07:10 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by geochem - 12-30-2014, 08:24 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Justin - 12-30-2014, 08:56 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 12-30-2014, 09:10 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 12-30-2014, 09:32 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Obie - 12-30-2014, 03:29 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 12-30-2014, 03:33 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilaniguy - 12-30-2014, 04:43 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 12-30-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilaniguy - 12-30-2014, 05:29 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 12-31-2014, 04:12 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 12-31-2014, 05:07 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 12-31-2014, 05:21 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 12-31-2014, 05:32 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by geochem - 12-31-2014, 01:28 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 12-31-2014, 02:52 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 12-31-2014, 04:14 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by geochem - 12-31-2014, 07:11 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 12-31-2014, 09:04 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by dakine - 01-01-2015, 03:35 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by dakine - 01-01-2015, 04:39 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 01-01-2015, 05:38 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 01-01-2015, 05:48 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-01-2015, 06:33 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by geochem - 01-01-2015, 07:57 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 01-01-2015, 08:16 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by snorkle - 01-01-2015, 09:45 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by dakine - 01-01-2015, 09:58 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Obie - 01-01-2015, 10:07 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by snorkle - 01-01-2015, 10:08 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Obie - 01-01-2015, 10:13 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Obie - 01-01-2015, 10:18 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by PunaMauka2 - 01-01-2015, 10:47 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by snorkle - 01-01-2015, 10:49 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-01-2015, 11:11 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-03-2015, 01:19 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 01-03-2015, 05:48 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 01-03-2015, 05:53 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 01-03-2015, 05:56 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-03-2015, 05:58 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-03-2015, 06:09 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by MarkP - 01-03-2015, 06:23 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Obie - 01-03-2015, 06:27 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by PunaMauka2 - 01-03-2015, 06:35 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 01-03-2015, 06:52 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Opihikaobob - 01-03-2015, 06:56 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 01-03-2015, 07:10 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-03-2015, 07:15 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by pam jones - 01-03-2015, 07:33 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 01-03-2015, 07:47 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 01-03-2015, 08:11 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 01-03-2015, 08:19 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-03-2015, 02:52 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 01-03-2015, 03:54 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 01-03-2015, 04:17 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 01-03-2015, 05:31 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-04-2015, 01:04 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-04-2015, 03:55 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-05-2015, 12:07 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-05-2015, 12:17 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 01-14-2015, 04:56 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-14-2015, 11:37 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Justin - 01-14-2015, 12:34 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 01-15-2015, 04:18 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Obie - 01-15-2015, 04:52 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Jay Bondesen - 01-15-2015, 05:26 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 01-15-2015, 06:32 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Opihikaobob - 01-15-2015, 06:55 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by PunaMauka2 - 01-15-2015, 07:19 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Punatic007 - 01-15-2015, 07:41 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Opihikaobob - 01-15-2015, 07:43 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by kalakoa - 01-15-2015, 08:00 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by PunaMauka2 - 01-15-2015, 09:20 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Opihikaobob - 01-16-2015, 06:03 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-16-2015, 06:29 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by PunaMauka2 - 01-16-2015, 07:44 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by PunaMauka2 - 01-16-2015, 07:51 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavarat - 01-16-2015, 08:00 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by PunaMauka2 - 01-16-2015, 08:08 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Opihikaobob - 01-18-2015, 06:28 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by norris - 01-18-2015, 01:56 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by PunaMauka2 - 01-18-2015, 02:06 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 01-19-2015, 05:55 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Kiana - 01-19-2015, 07:21 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by TomK - 01-19-2015, 07:29 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by RJHampton - 01-19-2015, 08:00 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 01-20-2015, 02:54 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-20-2015, 05:42 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Shonuff - 01-20-2015, 08:27 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 01-20-2015, 05:04 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by ironyak - 01-21-2015, 05:53 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by Guest - 06-11-2015, 03:12 PM
RE: PGV plans new well - by leilanidude - 06-12-2015, 03:41 AM
RE: PGV plans new well - by lavalava - 06-12-2015, 05:06 AM

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