01-21-2015, 09:55 AM
Hmmm.. VancouverIslander have you actually tried to swim in the ocean at Long Beach in the last 20 years? You DEFINITELY don't want to swim there now. I remember as a kid it was wonderful, but now it's so polluted that many of the beaches that I used to enjoy are permanently closed. I'm not sure if that was a very good example...