01-21-2015, 01:09 PM
dakine,
Wow, that Geronimo reference was a helluva 'non sequiter'. If you were to travel through Europe, arguably a more evolved society, you'll see industry and commerce intermixed with residential throughout France, Germany, Italy, Spain, just about everywhere I have traveled. I was in Netherlands in October and there was a 300 employee "factory" belching steam in the midst of polder and thatch roofed houses. BTW...thatched roof houses are VERY expensive, the most expensive roof you can have there, more than copper. Those people can well afford legal challenges to planning decisions, yet there the factories are throughout otherwise rural areas. Over there it's called "good planning". The theory is you put the means of production amidst the people, and you distribute the load on society throughout every portion and strata. Go figure !
Now I know some in Puna feel picked on, and this very vocal minority is asking why can't this power generation be stopped because of how they feel. The answer, in terms of this thread, is that's where the most active resource for power generation is, the state applied conditions to protect the people and the natural resources. If you feel hard done by then there is a process; you gather evidence, present it, argue your case, and rely on the rule of law. Thats the basis for this thread "PGV Fined for Violation". The key is to gather evidence that can be tested, is not tainted by bias in its collection and can be objectively reviewed. Can the anti-alliance do that....after all these years of protest? Seems not.
I won't touch the child beating thing....
Wow, that Geronimo reference was a helluva 'non sequiter'. If you were to travel through Europe, arguably a more evolved society, you'll see industry and commerce intermixed with residential throughout France, Germany, Italy, Spain, just about everywhere I have traveled. I was in Netherlands in October and there was a 300 employee "factory" belching steam in the midst of polder and thatch roofed houses. BTW...thatched roof houses are VERY expensive, the most expensive roof you can have there, more than copper. Those people can well afford legal challenges to planning decisions, yet there the factories are throughout otherwise rural areas. Over there it's called "good planning". The theory is you put the means of production amidst the people, and you distribute the load on society throughout every portion and strata. Go figure !
Now I know some in Puna feel picked on, and this very vocal minority is asking why can't this power generation be stopped because of how they feel. The answer, in terms of this thread, is that's where the most active resource for power generation is, the state applied conditions to protect the people and the natural resources. If you feel hard done by then there is a process; you gather evidence, present it, argue your case, and rely on the rule of law. Thats the basis for this thread "PGV Fined for Violation". The key is to gather evidence that can be tested, is not tainted by bias in its collection and can be objectively reviewed. Can the anti-alliance do that....after all these years of protest? Seems not.
I won't touch the child beating thing....