02-05-2015, 03:42 PM
quote:gypsy69, don't have the answer to that question, albeit still searching (for the answer). Perhaps new technology combined with less lawsuits, will allow for "middle ground".
Originally posted by gypsy69
Mr Maise, love your slice of paradise. Spent a couple years of my youth and prime on those walls or fortresses you are referring to. Yes they were works of art, yet I had no vision of the finish back then(to young). The days were spent in the heat, with no easy jobs, we had some really cool guys who worked well together. We used slogans like, if one man can move the rock then two could lay it. Much of the face rocks we used had harvesting stories attached long before we had to pick the spots to place them. The hidden grout method, with those lava plates really shows the variety of colors and beauty within the lava rock.
Opihikao, how can this community come to some middle ground with geothermal, regarding this nighttime drilling headache we all are sharing in?.
Safety issues for everyone involved including community and drilling employees should be one of many priorities going forward.
The extra cost associated with complying to the county law by not drilling at night should not be of great concern to our very patient community, this should have been discussed and planned for by the geothermal lawyers and the drilling contractors giving their bids before arriving or starting. Tired of this very large Ormat corporation or company playing dumb or ignorant, while our communities aloha and good nature continue to be taken advantage of. As a community, once again we did nothing wrong to deserve the backlash of media negativity caused from their non compliance of Law.jmo.
This existing plant is old. No question. PGV/ORMAT has not been an ideal "neighbor" over the years. No question, again.
However, the manner in which this has been handled by all concerned is deplorable. For example, there has not been transparency anywhere, given the guise of "proprietary information", etc. On the Federal, State and County level, every division is call a "LIAR" (ie. DOH, etc.) by past Plaintiffs and future potential Plaintiffs.
The extreme positions of both sides is concerning. Lawsuits continue the discussion, not resolve it. The first lawsuits filed by over 70 residents did not equate to a "public solution". The plaintiffs took money, and didn't finish the job: CLOSE THE PLANT DOWN if it was so bloody bad.
A very, very wise man (geothermal expert, scientist, not employed by PGV or any other developer) stated:
"In those days (when the PGV/True Geothermal plant was built), it was dialing a phone. Today, the technology (geothermal) is like an IPhone." I believe this is true, and also believe we need to get the hell off oil.
My keiki and mo'opuna cannot afford to continue with our high HELCO rates. It's not acceptable. Finding the solution takes all of us, without becoming a martyr.
Aloha to your ohana, gypsy69, and hope we find the solution soon. We're burning daylight (and a hell of a lot of oil).
JMO.