02-07-2015, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Kapohocat[/i]
I just would like to point out a fact here - the HPPOA would be paying all the things you mentioned : work comp or medical insurances, fuel, equipment maintenance/purchases and so forth.... - would still be being paid by the management company to their employees doing HPPOA work, and billed on to the HPPOA + the management fee would be on top - probably as a percentage of the labor they bill for. If they take control as a package with a set fee, they probably would bid high based on the past history. The management company wont be in this for no profit.
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I'm aware that those costs would be picked up by the contractor BUT it'd be less detailed costs and managing that HPPOA would have to contend with. It might even affect the number of ofc employees we'd need..maybe we could downsize? Maybe we'd need two separate contractors, one for roads and signage and another for maintaining the shoulders? We might save $$$ in the end if we're only paying for the work completed. Right now our employees get paid even if a shoulder wasn't maintained for a year or more w/waist high grass growing on top of the asphalt or whether a road has been maintained or not.
No shockwaverider, I'm not a moderator of this thread but I have a problem with a former GM pretending to be a member speaking about "HPP stuff", not Puna stuff as Steve stated. He has made more than one effort to try and intimidate and threaten me and/or other HPP members with defamation in regards to his lawsuit. I don't take that lightly and no other member should.
BTW kahunascott, I was told by another knowledgeable road person that we wouldn't have to remove the "RPM's" off the road before re-striping. That would be great savings to HPPOA to be able to skip those 2 steps of removal and reinstallation of the reflectors if we were to re-stripe the main drags, hopefully by a professional contractor next time so the stripes will last more than a year. To be clear if someone missed it in an earlier thread, the former GM was not responsible for the poor job we got on the striping of our main drags. The GM before him was. The RTSC suggested the reflectors to assist w/the poor visibility of the center stripe at night which did the trick. Has anyone noticed the county's beautiful striping and new reflectors from RR to the hwy on Makuu? That'd be great if all our main drags and feeder roads looked like that.
I just would like to point out a fact here - the HPPOA would be paying all the things you mentioned : work comp or medical insurances, fuel, equipment maintenance/purchases and so forth.... - would still be being paid by the management company to their employees doing HPPOA work, and billed on to the HPPOA + the management fee would be on top - probably as a percentage of the labor they bill for. If they take control as a package with a set fee, they probably would bid high based on the past history. The management company wont be in this for no profit.
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I'm aware that those costs would be picked up by the contractor BUT it'd be less detailed costs and managing that HPPOA would have to contend with. It might even affect the number of ofc employees we'd need..maybe we could downsize? Maybe we'd need two separate contractors, one for roads and signage and another for maintaining the shoulders? We might save $$$ in the end if we're only paying for the work completed. Right now our employees get paid even if a shoulder wasn't maintained for a year or more w/waist high grass growing on top of the asphalt or whether a road has been maintained or not.
No shockwaverider, I'm not a moderator of this thread but I have a problem with a former GM pretending to be a member speaking about "HPP stuff", not Puna stuff as Steve stated. He has made more than one effort to try and intimidate and threaten me and/or other HPP members with defamation in regards to his lawsuit. I don't take that lightly and no other member should.
BTW kahunascott, I was told by another knowledgeable road person that we wouldn't have to remove the "RPM's" off the road before re-striping. That would be great savings to HPPOA to be able to skip those 2 steps of removal and reinstallation of the reflectors if we were to re-stripe the main drags, hopefully by a professional contractor next time so the stripes will last more than a year. To be clear if someone missed it in an earlier thread, the former GM was not responsible for the poor job we got on the striping of our main drags. The GM before him was. The RTSC suggested the reflectors to assist w/the poor visibility of the center stripe at night which did the trick. Has anyone noticed the county's beautiful striping and new reflectors from RR to the hwy on Makuu? That'd be great if all our main drags and feeder roads looked like that.