04-15-2015, 09:17 PM
This is not about TMT. This is about a platform for the Hawaiian people to speak loudly about the wrong that has been done over one hundred (100) years ago.
First off, I want to say I have nothing but respect for Opihikao.
Second, I'd like to point out that dwelling on the past is inherently unhealthy and there comes a time when people just need to move on.
I'm not telling anyone now is that time - perhaps it is now, perhaps it is well past time, perhaps it is far off in the future.
That said, I want to point out the obvious in that now being a part of the U.S. Hawaiians actually have the ability to protest and voice their opinions without being slaughtered by their rulers for dissenting.
Next I'd like to point out that if this isn't about the TMT then why are the protesters making it about the TMT. Sure as hell seems like it's about the TMT to me. This kind of non sequitur is the reason why so many of us 'Haoles' often time have no patience to listen to protesters. I agree it is unfortunate that so many have resulted to mud slinging of various types.
I think it is about the TMT and I think it's about an entitlement based culture - primarily youth raised in such a culture who feel they have the right to demand more and more of anyone who comes along. I liken it to the Black Knight in Monty Python - "None Shall Pass!"
"Unless of course you line my pockets - then we'll quiet down till the next opportunity to fleece a ripe target arrives - with a renewed sense of vigor and entitlement due to our previous success!"
Anyways, this is all so moot...the TMT will be built its just matter of time. Being a nuisance is just that and nothing more.
I agree with Opihikao that the mudslinging needs to stop. Have some respect for your neighbors even if you don't agree with them and we are all neighbors here. Please try and check yourself and take some deep breaths before typing and maybe even give your post a once or twice over before hitting that submit button. A good rule of thumb would be - would you, could you say that in front of your kids, spouse, parents, grandparents. We all have feelings and we all have the right to an opinion if you can't be civil then realize you aren't wanted in this discussion. Thanks for everyone who has maintained a modicum of civility.
First off, I want to say I have nothing but respect for Opihikao.
Second, I'd like to point out that dwelling on the past is inherently unhealthy and there comes a time when people just need to move on.
I'm not telling anyone now is that time - perhaps it is now, perhaps it is well past time, perhaps it is far off in the future.
That said, I want to point out the obvious in that now being a part of the U.S. Hawaiians actually have the ability to protest and voice their opinions without being slaughtered by their rulers for dissenting.
Next I'd like to point out that if this isn't about the TMT then why are the protesters making it about the TMT. Sure as hell seems like it's about the TMT to me. This kind of non sequitur is the reason why so many of us 'Haoles' often time have no patience to listen to protesters. I agree it is unfortunate that so many have resulted to mud slinging of various types.
I think it is about the TMT and I think it's about an entitlement based culture - primarily youth raised in such a culture who feel they have the right to demand more and more of anyone who comes along. I liken it to the Black Knight in Monty Python - "None Shall Pass!"
"Unless of course you line my pockets - then we'll quiet down till the next opportunity to fleece a ripe target arrives - with a renewed sense of vigor and entitlement due to our previous success!"
Anyways, this is all so moot...the TMT will be built its just matter of time. Being a nuisance is just that and nothing more.
I agree with Opihikao that the mudslinging needs to stop. Have some respect for your neighbors even if you don't agree with them and we are all neighbors here. Please try and check yourself and take some deep breaths before typing and maybe even give your post a once or twice over before hitting that submit button. A good rule of thumb would be - would you, could you say that in front of your kids, spouse, parents, grandparents. We all have feelings and we all have the right to an opinion if you can't be civil then realize you aren't wanted in this discussion. Thanks for everyone who has maintained a modicum of civility.