04-26-2015, 02:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by birchl
actually leilani dude it apparently does...and WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?? as i have now said, more than once, the issue is not my permits, or lack thereof. the issue is that someone can use our building departments to intimidate and harass people. It should not be possible to use building inspectors to frighten people. Full stop.
I do not intend to ‘bring action’ (whatever that means) against the public works. The men involved were ‘just doing their jobs’. However I do intend to tackle the issue of using these departments to issue threats against the residents of these subdivisions. Since this is obviously possible to do than the procedures need seriously reviewing. A comprehensive policy for dealing with ‘homesteaders’ needs to be endlessly discussed by endless committees before men should be allowed to selectively enforce a set of sketchy, unknown rules.
If the county has decided to stop selling these estates as homesteads, and all that people assume from that title, than estate agents and the public need to be told of the new enforceable codes. Leilani for example has very strict guidelines that are written into the contracts. No such guidelines exist for most of these estates (especially this one!). Building permits carry no deadlines, few guidelines, no information on your rights or where to get that information, and certainly no indication that you may be held to sudden and unexpected visits.
These estates were deliberately built with little or no infrastructure. These unpermitted homes are sold, and advertised, and taxed, yet people can now literally be held to ransom? By the threat of building inspectors? People are quite genuinely frightened of them. And I am frightened by this. I am frightened of the escalation of it. That reasons will be found to justify it. I have already been warned not to upset them if I ever want to finalize.
It should be possible for the building departments to work with the Associations. We are informed of foreclosures, and sales, police activity, etc, etc, so why not building complaints? We may even be able to assist in ensuring that some standard is advised, and provide accurate information to residents; even investigates complaints to see if we, as a community, can assess issues ‘in house’ before wasting the building department's time. And what about the rules governing the ‘grading and bulldozing’ of entire lots? So that people with money can build their large permitted houses? or their pretend 'farms' and 'stables'? Is the destruction of the forest and the subsequent run off, in the name of ‘development’, going to be given the same attention? Are some codes more enforceable than others?
quote:
Originally posted by birchl
actually leilani dude it apparently does...and WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?? as i have now said, more than once, the issue is not my permits, or lack thereof. the issue is that someone can use our building departments to intimidate and harass people. It should not be possible to use building inspectors to frighten people. Full stop.
I do not intend to ‘bring action’ (whatever that means) against the public works. The men involved were ‘just doing their jobs’. However I do intend to tackle the issue of using these departments to issue threats against the residents of these subdivisions. Since this is obviously possible to do than the procedures need seriously reviewing. A comprehensive policy for dealing with ‘homesteaders’ needs to be endlessly discussed by endless committees before men should be allowed to selectively enforce a set of sketchy, unknown rules.
If the county has decided to stop selling these estates as homesteads, and all that people assume from that title, than estate agents and the public need to be told of the new enforceable codes. Leilani for example has very strict guidelines that are written into the contracts. No such guidelines exist for most of these estates (especially this one!). Building permits carry no deadlines, few guidelines, no information on your rights or where to get that information, and certainly no indication that you may be held to sudden and unexpected visits.
These estates were deliberately built with little or no infrastructure. These unpermitted homes are sold, and advertised, and taxed, yet people can now literally be held to ransom? By the threat of building inspectors? People are quite genuinely frightened of them. And I am frightened by this. I am frightened of the escalation of it. That reasons will be found to justify it. I have already been warned not to upset them if I ever want to finalize.
It should be possible for the building departments to work with the Associations. We are informed of foreclosures, and sales, police activity, etc, etc, so why not building complaints? We may even be able to assist in ensuring that some standard is advised, and provide accurate information to residents; even investigates complaints to see if we, as a community, can assess issues ‘in house’ before wasting the building department's time. And what about the rules governing the ‘grading and bulldozing’ of entire lots? So that people with money can build their large permitted houses? or their pretend 'farms' and 'stables'? Is the destruction of the forest and the subsequent run off, in the name of ‘development’, going to be given the same attention? Are some codes more enforceable than others?
Your attitude, apparently, IS part of the problem as others have also noticed. You told the inspectors to "bugger off" (I assume that you used harsher language than that?) as well as telling us all how you shouted at them.
Associations do not need to work with the inspectors. People bought a piece of cheap land knowing that it had no infrastructure and have since refused to follow the county rules on what may or may not be built on their property.
Due to the lack of decent roads in the "private" subdivisions, the lengths at which people have gone to in order to hide their illegal structures, and the attitudes of some people in some subdivisions, I do not fault the County for not being able to keep on top of the building permit process.
Just go through the building forum on punaweb. How many posts are made by people who express a desire to move here and then claim that they will not be following the rules regarding building permits! It has gotten completely out of hand.
ps - You say you are a student at UH? Try to practice using sentences and paragraphs in your communications. It tends to be expected once you graduate and get out into the real world.