05-01-2015, 06:50 AM
dakine,
I am not part of a "tag team." And I cannot learn if I don't ask questions. It's not easy to glean all perspectives from online research. Especially your perspective, so if you do not want to share it I might not know about it.
As just an aside, Tom and I are not married. I cannot live on the Big Island because I need specialized medical care. I am not well but have instead serious chronic illness.
I don't know anyone who makes telescopes although yes I know someone who works at one.
I have always loved Hawaiian language and culture. Long before I met Tom, my family almost moved to Hawaii. I understand about titles. My stepfather was a division manager for a title insurance company.
I also have a dual degree, Ivy League FWIW, in both economics and international relations.
I am concerned for Hawai'i. I realize this is just my opinion, but I think it would be a mistake for Hawai'i to throw away your seven-year approval process for the TMT, and I think it would be a mistake for many reasons.
As for the Kingdom, whether right or wrong, there are a lot of issues to be concerned with, for your own sakes as well as those of others.
The Jewish state does not seem a good comparison to me. You are asking to bring something back to life. Israel is a creation which gleaned a lot of support after the unspeakable way Jews were treated in WWII Germany. But the state was formed on land already occupied, creating problems which persist to this day. It would be the Arabs who could parallel the Hawaiian kingdom, wanting to remove the newcomers. Not that I consider either side of the debate over the kingdom to have the level of violence that exists in the Middle East conflict, of course. And I think clashing religion there is a factor. So none of it is really a parallel. And nationalism and desire for self determination are on both sides. I think at this point Israel has a right to exist, although I question continued expansion. The Palestinians have to have somewhere to live. This doesn't really, in my mind, have much to do with Hawai'i.
I don't think Tom is indoctrinated with the concept of colonization! Are you indoctrinated with the restrictions on what Hawaiian women were allowed to eat? I would be very surprised if you were [
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Anyway, please don't assume where I'm coming from, except that I do support the TMT. As you pointed out, the kingdom is another issue and I am still studying all of its complexity.
I assure you I have compassion for all the different points of view, as you suggested I do. Hope you have the same.
Pam in CA
May is Lupus Awareness Month
I am not part of a "tag team." And I cannot learn if I don't ask questions. It's not easy to glean all perspectives from online research. Especially your perspective, so if you do not want to share it I might not know about it.
As just an aside, Tom and I are not married. I cannot live on the Big Island because I need specialized medical care. I am not well but have instead serious chronic illness.
I don't know anyone who makes telescopes although yes I know someone who works at one.
I have always loved Hawaiian language and culture. Long before I met Tom, my family almost moved to Hawaii. I understand about titles. My stepfather was a division manager for a title insurance company.
I also have a dual degree, Ivy League FWIW, in both economics and international relations.
I am concerned for Hawai'i. I realize this is just my opinion, but I think it would be a mistake for Hawai'i to throw away your seven-year approval process for the TMT, and I think it would be a mistake for many reasons.
As for the Kingdom, whether right or wrong, there are a lot of issues to be concerned with, for your own sakes as well as those of others.
The Jewish state does not seem a good comparison to me. You are asking to bring something back to life. Israel is a creation which gleaned a lot of support after the unspeakable way Jews were treated in WWII Germany. But the state was formed on land already occupied, creating problems which persist to this day. It would be the Arabs who could parallel the Hawaiian kingdom, wanting to remove the newcomers. Not that I consider either side of the debate over the kingdom to have the level of violence that exists in the Middle East conflict, of course. And I think clashing religion there is a factor. So none of it is really a parallel. And nationalism and desire for self determination are on both sides. I think at this point Israel has a right to exist, although I question continued expansion. The Palestinians have to have somewhere to live. This doesn't really, in my mind, have much to do with Hawai'i.
I don't think Tom is indoctrinated with the concept of colonization! Are you indoctrinated with the restrictions on what Hawaiian women were allowed to eat? I would be very surprised if you were [
]Anyway, please don't assume where I'm coming from, except that I do support the TMT. As you pointed out, the kingdom is another issue and I am still studying all of its complexity.
I assure you I have compassion for all the different points of view, as you suggested I do. Hope you have the same.
Pam in CA
May is Lupus Awareness Month
Pam in CA