05-08-2015, 09:34 AM
quote:Aloha HOTPE, yes, several. First one posted here on 4/16:
Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
TMT alone does not have enough "public trust", given the actions of late (past few months).
Do you have an example of this ophikao?
My understanding is that the construction was going to proceed according to schedule, and that all of the permits and paperwork were properly filed and accepted (all available to the public for review). I'm sure the protestors didn't like being arrested while blocking the road, but the TMT entities didn't do that, it was the police. If the protestors break the law first, it's hard to understand how that might be a reason they have had their trust in the TMT broken. (?)
http://punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19779&whichpage=39&SearchTerms=TMT
1) The day I went to Mauna Kea, which was also during the Governor's hiatus of this project being Merrie Monarch week, one of the TMT officials acted like a "tourist" to get past the protestors/protectors. He admitted he was doing work for the past "few days" although the media and public were advised of the moratorium until April 20, 2015. I watched it happen. There are videos of the discussion between the TMT official and the "protectors" flooding the internet (they tape EVERYTHING). In essence, the Governor's/State ruling meant nothing to this man.
Second, during the hiatus, machines moved (at 2am), work done for several days (same timeframe; hiatus ordered by Gov.), and confrontation occurred due to perceived "promise broken". Not to mention, hiatus ordered by the Governor.
The meetings that have been held, and continue to be held, need to be productive, not just giving lip service, on both sides. Yes, permits are issued, so start construction. Arrest all who dare try to break the law (which law? US law, of course. Some are not held to US law in their minds).
However, the perception of deceit given the examples above, is the problem. Just say, "We're gonna do it (DATE), so be advised, we will keep you informed as we progress." DONE. Let the chips fall where they may.
Mr. Tucker, in short, no (re: Kilauea observatory). I maintain, this TMT opposition is not about TMT. This is about the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom, and Mauna Kea has given this issue a huge platform.
JMO.
ETA: typo