05-08-2015, 02:04 PM
HOTPE, to answer your questions, yes, but on Facebook, which I don't have (my kids and their friends all show me photos and videos), and my statements are mine alone, what discussions I'm involved in, and what I see. I didn't "see" the machines working on the site, as I was at the visitor's center (no machines there).
I was more interested in the Governor's entourage and their body language, as they waited for other cars to go get him at the top (van broke down once he reached the site). The protestors will surely continue to video and take pictures of everything. So far, they release them very strategically which has had some effect. It is part of the "social media" campaign the activists of old did not have the luxury of. This generation is very astute, and campaigning with "Kapu Aloha".
Trying diligently to balance thoughts, and discuss cohesively how to move forward (even within my own ohana!). Have a great evening, HOTPE.
This is a very good explanation of the situation we are dealing with today:
(*Snipped - More at link)
The following passage from the late Hawaii State Supreme Court Chief Justice William S. Richardson is excerpted from “The Life of the Law is Perpetuated in Righteousness: The Jurisprudence of William S. Richardson,” published in 2010 in the University of Hawaii Law Review by Williamson B.C. Chang.
It may not be readily apparent how Hawaiians in 1770 practicing their religion will have almost lost their most sacred mountain, Mauna Kea, in 2015. The system by which the Hawaiian understood the world and ordered their daily lives, was interpreted by outsiders to their detriment interpreted the system by which the Hawaiian understood the world and ordered their daily lives. In time, this outside interpretation gained authority as a series of extraordinary political, social and economic events in Hawai’i placed outsiders in a position to make conclusive assumptions about the Hawaiian.
Simply thinking and acting as a Hawaiian accelerated the downfall. An inability to reject the West, as the West becomes a larger and larger part of one’s life, renders the individual vulnerable. Not understanding how one’s own actions are interpreted, one faces a choice between a loyalty to one’s own culture at an unknown cost or meaningless imitation of Western forms at the cost of alienation from one’s own self.
...The collision of values over the future of the most sacred Mountain in the Pacific reveals how law, politics and the insatiable need of Westerners for more and more knowledge, reconstructed the Hawaiian’s own beliefs in their view of creation and the cosmos to the benefit of Westerners and, incredibly, to the detriment of Hawaiians themselves.
http://www.civilbeat.com/connections/westerners-feel-at-home-hawaiians-feel-lost/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=Hawaii
JMO.
ETA: Dakine, it's clear as day: This is not about TMT. At. All. Some get it, some will never. The article above is pretty clear. Mahalo for your continued respectful opinion, although we are not always in agreement, we show respect. Mahalo for that. Some could learn from the "old ways'. Just sayin'. Have a good evening. JMO.
I was more interested in the Governor's entourage and their body language, as they waited for other cars to go get him at the top (van broke down once he reached the site). The protestors will surely continue to video and take pictures of everything. So far, they release them very strategically which has had some effect. It is part of the "social media" campaign the activists of old did not have the luxury of. This generation is very astute, and campaigning with "Kapu Aloha".
Trying diligently to balance thoughts, and discuss cohesively how to move forward (even within my own ohana!). Have a great evening, HOTPE.
This is a very good explanation of the situation we are dealing with today:
(*Snipped - More at link)
The following passage from the late Hawaii State Supreme Court Chief Justice William S. Richardson is excerpted from “The Life of the Law is Perpetuated in Righteousness: The Jurisprudence of William S. Richardson,” published in 2010 in the University of Hawaii Law Review by Williamson B.C. Chang.
It may not be readily apparent how Hawaiians in 1770 practicing their religion will have almost lost their most sacred mountain, Mauna Kea, in 2015. The system by which the Hawaiian understood the world and ordered their daily lives, was interpreted by outsiders to their detriment interpreted the system by which the Hawaiian understood the world and ordered their daily lives. In time, this outside interpretation gained authority as a series of extraordinary political, social and economic events in Hawai’i placed outsiders in a position to make conclusive assumptions about the Hawaiian.
Simply thinking and acting as a Hawaiian accelerated the downfall. An inability to reject the West, as the West becomes a larger and larger part of one’s life, renders the individual vulnerable. Not understanding how one’s own actions are interpreted, one faces a choice between a loyalty to one’s own culture at an unknown cost or meaningless imitation of Western forms at the cost of alienation from one’s own self.
...The collision of values over the future of the most sacred Mountain in the Pacific reveals how law, politics and the insatiable need of Westerners for more and more knowledge, reconstructed the Hawaiian’s own beliefs in their view of creation and the cosmos to the benefit of Westerners and, incredibly, to the detriment of Hawaiians themselves.
http://www.civilbeat.com/connections/westerners-feel-at-home-hawaiians-feel-lost/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=Hawaii
JMO.
ETA: Dakine, it's clear as day: This is not about TMT. At. All. Some get it, some will never. The article above is pretty clear. Mahalo for your continued respectful opinion, although we are not always in agreement, we show respect. Mahalo for that. Some could learn from the "old ways'. Just sayin'. Have a good evening. JMO.