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Originally posted by rainyjim

I find when people go on like dakine it's usually because they're covering up their own insecurities, their own BS, otherwise they wouldn't have the need to tell 'haloes' to shut up and leave if they have a problem with their viewpoint.

And...how is it you are able to speak about the majority of the Hawaiians point of view? Do you have some source for this assumption? Or are you just making stuff up to suit yourself?


Just a stab in the dark but it could have something to do with the 7 years of approval processes undergone and passed during which the majority of the Hawaiian people approved the telescope!

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E kala mai, rainyjim, with respect, the "majority" of Hawaiians could not have supported nor been against the TMT. The "elected officials", and the self purported representatives of the Hawaiian Kingdom/Nation (whatever it is) are not representative of the "majority". (Note: There are over 400,000 "Native Hawaiian" people today as of the year 2000.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Hawaiians

Native Hawaiians trace their ancestry back to the original Polynesian settlers of Hawaii. According to the U.S. Census Bureau report for 2000, there are 401,162 people who identified themselves as being "Native Hawaiian" alone or in any combination, but they are not considered Native Americans.

That is part of the problem today; Some believe the majority was not represented well.

As an example, OHA chose not to enter into the Contested Case Hearing (July, 2014 - Links provided below).

http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/oha...t-sublease

The entire OHA office position and discussion prior to decision to not participate: (*Note - Board Meeting Trascript / PDF file)

http://tinyurl.com/k2nxvu4

gypsy, perhaps another thread later on, and I don't know the answers to your questions, but will do research and ask remaining kupuna.

Dakine speaks truth a lot of the time, if you choose to understand it. Although some may find his/her approach abrasive or divisive, it is dakine's candor in expressing belief and opinion that I admire. Some people don't have the gumption to state what is in their na'au openly, without worry of being chastised. (Jumping off soap box; e kala mai...lol)

Mahalo for this continued good discussion. Gonna go make a mayonnaise sandwich. Best Foods only!

JMO.