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[opihikao]

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Originally posted by pahoated

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Originally posted by opihikao
We all have done all we can to find middle ground.

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Middle means between two sides. There is no middle because there are no sides.

It is common ground. Common ground presentations starting Tuesday, no debate, each speaker presenting their topic.
http://bigislandnow.com/2015/05/15/hhcdc...nd-events/

The Hawaiians really need to stop dancing around with word games like "practitioner" (you are either a priest or priestess that has met the requirements), culture (religion), caretaker (kahu). Is the issue the telescope or is the issue a sovereign kingdom? Also, this whole island is sacred but there is a place more sacred than Mauna Kea, and almost nobody cares. There has to be a common ground recognition that this island is the most sacred because it has 5 wahine kupua living here with another in the ocean. Both parties have to arrive at this common ground of awareness.


"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

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With due respect, pahoated, sematics. "Common ground", "middle ground", whatever.

I am not "dancing", by any means, Sir (although, I can do a mean hula[]). A "practitioner" does not have to be a "priest" or "priestess", at all. Each of us has the right to offer ho'okupu, and pray to our Kupuna without being ordained (as a "priest/priestess").

The Volcano National Park affords kanaka maoli that right. Why was it left out of the TMT permit/lease? (Rhetoric question). The lease to date, does not provide for those who are "practitioners", in the true sense. It will be worked out, somehow.

For my ohana, none of us will ever traverse the "sacred grounds" of Mauna a Wakea. No. It is kapu.

Now, pardon my ignorance, but where is the place that is "more sacred", please? (Forgive my question; our piko is Puna. If you speak of Lo'ihi, that is still to be realized as "more sacred". E kala mai if your reference is not to Lo'ihi). Or, do you speak of Napo'opo'o (one of three portals)?

The kupua are the demigods who live among us, however, being half human and half "Godlike", have faults (some Kupuna have described them as "tricksters and monsters"). Kupuna supercede "kupua" in my book.

Apologies for the O/T, again, but had to be addressed.

JMO.

ETA; Napo'opo'o possibility.