07-29-2015, 04:59 PM
quote:Welcome back, rainyjim! Between this post, and the other "dead bodies" post on another thread, I sure hope you don't have to take another little break. Please relax, as I enjoy reading your posts, when they are comprehendible, not insulting.
Originally posted by rainyjim
Why do any of you bother to reply to Dakine?
Its the rhetorical equivalent of giving crack to an addict.
As far as Dakine's posts, and why anyone "bothers", is there are many pearls in his/her statements. (Y'all really like the term "pearls", yeah? The "shells" of the oysters are also good for chickens, when ground. Chicken feed, as it were...[
]) Dakine's post above is quite accurate, as most of his posts are, perhaps quite blatant in the message, however, reflects an opinion held by many. This one (in it's entirety):
Posted - 07/29/2015 : 17:56:37
"TMT is the flashpoint, the problem which is much bigger and older and pretty much set in it's way for lifetimes is the illegal overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893"
Additionally, pog is 99% always "spot on". Mahalo, pog. Recognition is what it's all about, at this point.
leilanidude, lol. Yes, we'll be waiting for a while; agreed.
Oh, AaronS, aren't you special! Born and raised, etc. Lucky, lucky, you! (...and many others. BTW, "sacred ground" you know...[
] You "know" right?) Not going to get into the Kingdom/Nation (within a nation), vs. US (illegal) overthrow, reparation argument, but do maintain that TMT is a victim of the "movement", as Mauna Kea/Mauna a Wakea provides an extremely large "platform".
The consensus of those in my small circle, is this is not about the almighty dollar, however, it is the only "reparation" the USofA will afford, combined with other "rights", via "tribal status" (e kala mai, another discussion). This is about our land (all encompassing, ALL of us). Some of us encourage management of our own "Crown lands" and resources, or at the very least, be consulted and involved in the process. OHA and DHHL have been miserable failures since inception. That needs to change.
I maintain, this is not all about TMT. We are facing a movement that may supersede Kaho'olawe.
Now, when are all these rules and regulations, old and new, be enforced? When will both sides come to some resolution? Will the courts proceed both State level and Federal level, and perhaps, on an international level, towards resolution?
Hopefully, soon.
“Ua mau ke ea o ka aina i ka pono”
“The life of the land is perpetuated in righteousness.”
(*Note: almost literal translation - Hawaiian language cannot be literally translated to English word for word.)
Go ahead, those of you who enjoy picking apart each and every word, statement to fit the intended response, sometimes with a "zinger" attached. So be it. This is....
JMO, as usual.
P.S. Have a lovely evening, all. There is light on the horizon, with or without telescope. Oh, and Blue Moon on Friday! [
]ETA: typo.