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The History of the overthrow told by Hawaiians
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I for one don't need to hear any particular narrative before forming my own opinion. Anyone with a rudimentary education including world history and international relations can easily determine that more successful cultures dominate less successful cultures. The fact that we are ruling now speaks volumes. Technology, innovation, and adaptation have always been key to dominate as a culture.

The Romans developed roads, aqueducts, and fielded legions through conscription which eventualy led to the largest empire seen yet.

The Umayyad Caliphate developed a complex system of governance including state sponsored post offices, archives, courts, mints and banks there empire was so successful it also developed into the largest the world had ever seen. If it wasn't for the Charles Martel defeating the Umayyad Caliphate in 732 this conversation would probably be in arabic.

Then of course there was the British who also developed into largest empire the world had ever seen and termed "the empire on which the sun never sets." The British also dominated through innovation at the Battle of Trafalgar the British fleet defeated a Spanish and French fleet which due to supeior British tactics was one of the most decisive naval battles in all of history with 22 of 33 French and Spanish ships sunk and zero British ships sunk.
To this day the British are one of the most powerful countries on the planet.

This is contrasted by societies that either refused to adapt or were unable to before being swept away. So manu socities and cultures once existed that no longer have any kind of representation except maybe in a history text as a short footnote.

This is the natural course of culture. It happened, it happening, and it will happen again. Hawaii is no different the current ethnic group claiming to be native - though they arrived here in canoes from polynesia are also guilty of it - there were already other people here which they subsequently took the land from and exterminated the survivors.

As of 2013 over 30 million people still live in slavery. The word isn't a pretty place and those who don't thank their lucky stars they are fortunate enough to live in the United States are free to pack up and go elsewhere.

People don't get there land back by whining about the past - they get it through war. Look at the pipeline haliburton just finished building from Iraq to Israel. Look at the Ukraine - once again under Russian domination.

A lot of people in Hawaii live in there own little fantasy world. Well I say its time for them to wake up! Contribute and do something meaningful stop sitting around bitching, moaning and begging for handouts. Get up off you derriere and do something to make life better for your children. Every $250.00 spent getting bailed out of jail could have bought a lot of school supplies, new shoes, and heathy meals. If you've got problems, solve them. Moaning about the past and asking for 'Uncle Sam' to wave his magic wand and make it all 'right' again is never going to get you anywhere.

And foremost - get a job.

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RE: The History of the overthrow told by Hawaiians - by rainyjim - 07-31-2015, 04:06 PM
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