The History of the overthrow told by Hawaiians

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Originally posted by Wao nahele kane
Here's something to chew on. What is the correct name for the "Hawaiian" people? Is Hawaiian only applicable to those native people from the Big Island and what is the proper name for the Menehune? Can "Hawaiian" history books answer those questions for us? What's the straight scoop before the multi cultural clouds scrambled everything?

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The context of the above shows a lot of scrambling. Menehune is menehune, there is no "known as". Even though the Micronesians were conquered by the Tongans, and the Tongans were conquered by the first Tahitians, and the second group of Tahitians conquered those, there was still an oral history of the Menehune and they all acknowledge Menehune were here first, at least on Kauai. Hawaii moku is Hawaii because it was the first island that Ha landed at and named. There is a big scrambling going on with even pronouncing Hawaii, with a growing group saying the 'w' is pronounced like German 'v'. Whoever is doing this is totally screwed up.

In all the discussions that turn into arguments, nobody ever references the Cook voyages as being the defining reference of pre-contact Hawaii. This was a time, after the American Revolutionary war, that the British started realizing their past two hundred years of conquest was wiping out whole cultures, so Cook had royal orders to document everything before destroying it. There are massive amounts of reference materials and nobody seems to pay attention that Cook on his return voyage met up with a sister ship, and those naturalists and artists produced thousands of documents and drawings, capturing pre-contact Hawaii.

One entry shows what they heard when they asked the natives what the name of the place was. It was written down in separate journals. The fact they heard Ou-why-ee and wrote it that way proves there was no 'v' sound. Reading their journals of Hawaii island are hilarious, they found it rather hideous which probably was the early indicator for Cook's demise. Notice also what he called the native.

"The same day, wrote David Samwell, surgeon on the Discovery, "we stood to the Westward for the Land, having weathered the most easterly point of Ou-why-ee, at 5 in the afternoon saw the Land right a head." Still aboard was the native who had been unable to get ashore since he came aboard the ship on 23rd December. However, the next day "we were close in with the Land… a great number of Canoes came off to us… a few of the Indians came on board but could give us no intelligence of the Resolution… Many people collected on the Beach to look at the Ship. Our Indian Guest… packed a few things together which had been given to him and went ashore… About 2 o'Clock in the Afternoon we saw some appearance of a Harbour, upon which we brought the Ship to & sent the great Cutter ashore to examine it… About 5 o'Clock the Boat returned having found no Harbour."

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"