08-22-2015, 05:53 AM
RB Byrd said: "If you have an ancestor who was a Hawaiian National..." ......"As soon as this statement was made, it became about ethnicity. Ancestry involves bloodlines which comes down to race. No way around that."
Not necessarily, the Hawaiian Kingdom had citizens of many ethnicities, who were accepted as full participating members of the nation. Nationality is not ethnicity, ethnicity crosses borders, and citizens of most nations includes multiple ethnicities. Ancestry is not always about race, just ask anyone who is has multiple ethnicities in their "bloodline."
If your wife's family includes people who were citizens of the Hawaiian Kingdom at the time of the overthrow, she would be a citizen of the Reinstated Hawaiian Kingdom in the scenario cited above. But she would only be "due" reparations in proportion to what was lost to her family in the overthrow, which for many people isn't much because they didn't have much before the overthrow. The question of all the descendants of the plantation workers who were in Hawaii at the time of the overthrow isn't often discussed by the sovereignty movement, but if they truly are upholding the idea of reinstating the Kingdom as a legally recognized nation, then they need to quit framing the narrative as a "Hawaiian" movement, because there were not all that many Hawaiians left by the time of the overthrow, and there were a lot of people living in Hawaii, many of them born here, whose families immigrated to Hawaii to work the plantations from all over the globe.
Not necessarily, the Hawaiian Kingdom had citizens of many ethnicities, who were accepted as full participating members of the nation. Nationality is not ethnicity, ethnicity crosses borders, and citizens of most nations includes multiple ethnicities. Ancestry is not always about race, just ask anyone who is has multiple ethnicities in their "bloodline."
If your wife's family includes people who were citizens of the Hawaiian Kingdom at the time of the overthrow, she would be a citizen of the Reinstated Hawaiian Kingdom in the scenario cited above. But she would only be "due" reparations in proportion to what was lost to her family in the overthrow, which for many people isn't much because they didn't have much before the overthrow. The question of all the descendants of the plantation workers who were in Hawaii at the time of the overthrow isn't often discussed by the sovereignty movement, but if they truly are upholding the idea of reinstating the Kingdom as a legally recognized nation, then they need to quit framing the narrative as a "Hawaiian" movement, because there were not all that many Hawaiians left by the time of the overthrow, and there were a lot of people living in Hawaii, many of them born here, whose families immigrated to Hawaii to work the plantations from all over the globe.