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sovereignty squatters arrested
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Originally posted by Punatic007

"To me, Hawaiians are descendants of the people who were living in Hawaii prior to the arrival of Captain Cook. Descendants of everyone who came later are the children and grandchildren of immigrants to Hawaii, and we will never be Hawaiians, although we can be residents of Hawaii. I could live here for decades more, and still I will never be Hawaiian, and I certainly would never take it upon myself to tell "Hawaiians" what they should do, feel, or think about issues of deep concern to them."
-shockwave rider
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The above quote from shockwave rider is a classic example of politically correct apology syndrome. If you are born in California you are a Californian, right? But not in Hawaii? We are all immigrants here including the Tahitians descendants you feel deserve a racial preference.

People can believe whatever they want to believe as long as it does not affect their neighbors adversely. The racism and divisiveness is a huge energy draw on all of us.

Some of us don't consider the coddling of Native Americans as a good or healthy thing. I spent time in Tibetan refugee enclaves in Nepal last year as a student. China has been pressuring the Nepalese to harass the Tibetans, some get disappeared, tortured and killed. Talk about a dislocated population. I didn't experience any of the myriad of the destructive social problems the Native Americans have. Perhaps if you continually treat people like victims, they act like weak victims. Seems the Tibetans have continued to build character and greater compassion for all beings regardless of race or history.

We aren't all bad shockwave, we simply have very different perspective and life experiences. Thank goodness we live in America where we can be honest with one another and have great freedoms.




I know Californians who would disagree with that, and just because you move to Oregon, it sure as heck doesn't make you an Oregonian. The S.N.O.B. (Society of Native Oregon Born) bumper stickers are still common, and my parents moved into a small rural town in another state over 60 years ago and they still are considered newcomers, in fact if you didn't have one of the 18 original settler's last names you were an outsider for life, no matter who you married.

edited to add: Have you ever seen what life is like on an Indian Reservation that doesn't have casino money? If you consider that coddling I hate to see what you think a bad deal looks like. Different people handle things differently, but there you go again, telling Hawaiians how they OUGHT to be responding. Maybe you could just acknowledge the pain other people experience, instead of telling them how the SHOULD feel about their situation and how they should be more like some other people you are more impressed with on the other side of the world. And if you bother to look you will see that exactly NO WHERE did I say anyone should get a racial preference, so don't put words into my mouth just to make a weak point stronger.
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sovereignty squatters arrested - by ericlp - 08-14-2015, 02:49 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by ericlp - 08-14-2015, 03:43 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-14-2015, 04:17 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-14-2015, 04:28 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by jlgerk - 08-15-2015, 04:33 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by knieft - 08-15-2015, 05:22 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Clayjacks - 08-15-2015, 05:25 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-15-2015, 05:50 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by knieft - 08-15-2015, 06:07 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-15-2015, 06:52 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by knieft - 08-15-2015, 11:00 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by kalakoa - 08-15-2015, 11:08 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-15-2015, 04:58 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-15-2015, 06:00 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by rainyjim - 08-15-2015, 10:00 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by kalakoa - 08-16-2015, 03:29 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by MattKarma - 08-16-2015, 05:03 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Clayjacks - 08-16-2015, 08:06 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by rainyjim - 08-16-2015, 10:47 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by bystander - 08-16-2015, 11:57 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by rainyjim - 08-16-2015, 12:34 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by b_a - 08-16-2015, 01:58 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by rainyjim - 08-16-2015, 05:19 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by MattKarma - 08-16-2015, 05:52 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Guest - 08-17-2015, 01:45 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by kalakoa - 08-17-2015, 03:59 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by pahoated - 08-20-2015, 11:17 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-20-2015, 01:30 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by MattKarma - 08-20-2015, 03:42 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by ericlp - 08-20-2015, 05:35 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by dmbwest - 08-20-2015, 05:41 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by kalakoa - 08-21-2015, 02:40 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by bystander - 08-21-2015, 03:29 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Chunkster - 08-21-2015, 03:50 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by beejee - 08-21-2015, 03:53 AM
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RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by MarkP - 08-21-2015, 03:17 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by rbbyrd - 08-22-2015, 05:29 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Chunkster - 08-22-2015, 06:06 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by MarkP - 08-22-2015, 06:08 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by beejee - 08-22-2015, 07:02 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by dan d - 08-22-2015, 08:15 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 10:10 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 11:09 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 11:20 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by dmbwest - 08-22-2015, 11:24 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 11:42 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by dmbwest - 08-22-2015, 11:56 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 12:14 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-22-2015, 01:35 PM
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RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by tada - 08-22-2015, 03:34 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 03:58 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 04:07 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by tada - 08-22-2015, 04:53 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 04:55 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 05:23 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by dmbwest - 08-22-2015, 05:46 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 06:15 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-22-2015, 06:22 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by beejee - 08-23-2015, 01:44 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by kalakoa - 08-23-2015, 03:38 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by beejee - 08-23-2015, 04:46 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by rainyjim - 08-23-2015, 05:08 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-23-2015, 05:20 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by knieft - 08-23-2015, 05:52 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-23-2015, 06:14 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by MarkP - 08-23-2015, 06:36 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by bystander - 08-23-2015, 11:15 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by MarkP - 08-23-2015, 12:08 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-23-2015, 05:27 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-23-2015, 05:33 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by TomK - 08-23-2015, 08:21 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by bystander - 08-24-2015, 06:47 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-24-2015, 11:48 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Frank - 08-24-2015, 03:24 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by opihikao - 08-24-2015, 04:18 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Frank - 08-24-2015, 04:37 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by MarkP - 08-24-2015, 04:39 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by shockwave rider - 08-24-2015, 05:22 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Justin - 08-24-2015, 06:11 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-25-2015, 04:48 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-25-2015, 07:44 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-25-2015, 08:33 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-25-2015, 09:08 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by Kaimana - 08-25-2015, 09:19 AM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by TomK - 08-25-2015, 06:44 PM
RE: sovereignty squatters arrested - by kalakoa - 08-26-2015, 03:04 AM

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