10-17-2015, 06:20 AM
Chunkster: I totally agree that the subdivisions are getting the shaft regarding no help for their so-called private roads. It's all in the stupid definitions. I believe that if the public uses the road, it is a public road. The community associations involved need to work with their councilpersons to change the definitions in the rules in order to remove the basis for the inequity.
Kalakoa: How the homesteads were formed IS relevant. Apa'a Street and Ka'ohe Homestead Road are County roads, but are not IN Ka'ohe Homesteads. They are the sole access TO Ka'ohe Homesteads. And the County has the mandate to keep its roads open and serviceable. Bottom line. Parcels are not allowed to be landlocked, which is what the lava is currently doing.
Subdivisions, on the other hand, per the documents and rules that created them, contain private subdivision roads, unless the subdivision has turned them over to the County, like Ainaloa Blvd. In some cases the County has offered to take over certain subdivision roads, and the community association has opposed that, or set additional conditions that the County was not willing to accept at that time. You are comparing apples and oranges.
Kalakoa: How the homesteads were formed IS relevant. Apa'a Street and Ka'ohe Homestead Road are County roads, but are not IN Ka'ohe Homesteads. They are the sole access TO Ka'ohe Homesteads. And the County has the mandate to keep its roads open and serviceable. Bottom line. Parcels are not allowed to be landlocked, which is what the lava is currently doing.
Subdivisions, on the other hand, per the documents and rules that created them, contain private subdivision roads, unless the subdivision has turned them over to the County, like Ainaloa Blvd. In some cases the County has offered to take over certain subdivision roads, and the community association has opposed that, or set additional conditions that the County was not willing to accept at that time. You are comparing apples and oranges.