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Hawaii history and cannibalism
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Bzzzt! Wrong! Cannibalism is humans eating other humans for food.

The Hawaiians ate parts of flesh and organs, much as some white hunters eat the heart of fresh kills. Again, with all the Euro-centric views of everything. Never mind that Europe at this time found no problems with leaving the heads of beheaded people in public squares for public entertainment and education.

This is a big issue for Victorian Tom because it is just a fact of history. After Captain Crook was killed, the rest of the crew was overwhelmed and had to retreat without his body. They fired cannon at the shore but the Hawaiians just pulled back out of range. The message was forwarded to the Crown that Captain Crook had been killed and his body not recovered. The Crown through intermediaries sent a demand that Captain Crook's body be returned. "Proper" Europe at the time was horrified when some bones were sent back, all boiled and clean. This was a huge moment in history because the British were so horrified, they didn't send another expedition to Hawaii for over 10 years. In that time, American whalers, having depleted all the whales on the East coast, were wiping out the whales in the Pacific. They found out about a beautiful island rest stop in the middle of the Pacific, and the rest, as they say, is history and why Amerika became the next conqueror of the Hawaiian islands, not the British.

Also, while some heiau were for human sacrifice (Euro-centric people call their own "prisons" and "execution chambers"), there were also healing heiau, astronomy heiau, spiritual heiau. There were also multiple types of halau. People need to remember all these were torn apart and scattered by kanaka maoli, those that had rejected the kapu and became converted to christians. And so the high priestess of Pele curse on the kanaka maoli Hawaiian people was fulfilled, kanaka maoli against kanaka maoli till there are no more kanaka maoli any more.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 10-31-2015, 08:44 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by dmbwest - 10-31-2015, 09:37 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 10-31-2015, 10:05 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by bystander - 11-01-2015, 03:49 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by pahoated - 11-01-2015, 06:46 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by Chunkster - 11-01-2015, 09:19 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by MarkP - 11-01-2015, 10:48 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by Lodestone - 11-01-2015, 12:02 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by dmbwest - 11-01-2015, 01:30 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by lisa - 11-01-2015, 01:43 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-01-2015, 08:06 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by dmbwest - 11-01-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by Lodestone - 11-02-2015, 06:01 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by dmbwest - 11-02-2015, 08:13 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by Justin - 11-02-2015, 09:42 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by lavarat - 11-02-2015, 01:05 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-02-2015, 07:51 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-02-2015, 10:12 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by dakine - 11-03-2015, 04:19 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by opihikao - 11-03-2015, 11:13 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by Lodestone - 11-03-2015, 01:12 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by dmbwest - 11-03-2015, 01:52 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by MarkP - 11-03-2015, 04:03 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-03-2015, 08:30 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by PaulW - 11-04-2015, 05:44 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by eigoya - 11-04-2015, 05:04 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-05-2015, 12:41 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-05-2015, 02:12 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-05-2015, 03:28 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-05-2015, 03:45 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by Justin - 11-05-2015, 09:53 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by ironyak - 11-05-2015, 01:39 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by kalakoa - 11-05-2015, 02:05 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by dmbwest - 11-05-2015, 03:46 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-05-2015, 07:18 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by Lee M-S - 11-06-2015, 02:50 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by kalakoa - 11-06-2015, 03:48 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by kalakoa - 11-06-2015, 05:00 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by ironyak - 11-06-2015, 08:53 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by TomK - 11-06-2015, 07:55 PM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by Lodestone - 11-07-2015, 12:36 AM
RE: Hawaii history and cannibalism - by bystander - 11-07-2015, 03:45 AM

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