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Pointless thread
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Originally posted by dakine

I’m utterly shocked that Judge Barbara Takase acquitted several Thirty Meter Telescope protesters of obstruction...

Yes Aaron shocked as you might be some, as demonstrated by Judge Takase, still recognize another's way of life, systems and beliefs, and honor their right to practice them even though they might be contrary to their own. Something to contemplate when one considers that the illegal overthrow of Hawaii has yet to be adequately addressed. I bet, especially after the outcome of the stand taken on Mauna Kea, that civil disobedience will more than likely be used again and again until it is.

And yes I can grok that this makes a lot of recent arrivals to the island uncomfortable. As if they fear they may loose something, if not their land at least the sense that they are comfortably wrapped in the America flag or some such. Is that the fault of the Hawaiians or the US government for not addressing this issue earlier?


I've lived here in Hawaii my entire life, born and raised, if you were implying I'm a newcomer here.

I don't see the sovereignty movement gaining any traction until al the various groups reach a consensus. That won't happen anytime soon, so I'm not worried about the State of Hawaii turning into the Kingdom of Hawaii in my lifetime. Didn't the Civil War teach us anything?

As far as Judge Takase's decision, I suspect she was afraid of being charged with a possible war crime. Hence why she dismissed the charges.
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Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-25-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-25-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-25-2016, 07:15 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by PaulW - 01-26-2016, 01:19 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-26-2016, 03:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 01-26-2016, 04:07 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-26-2016, 05:21 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 06:17 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by knieft - 01-26-2016, 06:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 07:02 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 07:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-26-2016, 08:01 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-26-2016, 08:18 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-26-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-26-2016, 03:02 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-26-2016, 03:24 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-26-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-26-2016, 09:45 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 01-27-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-27-2016, 03:00 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-27-2016, 04:03 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-27-2016, 05:28 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-27-2016, 05:58 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-28-2016, 05:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-28-2016, 06:47 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 01-28-2016, 07:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-28-2016, 07:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 08:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 09:10 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 10:16 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 10:20 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 10:48 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 10:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 10:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-28-2016, 11:15 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 11:28 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 11:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 11:59 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 04:03 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-28-2016, 07:34 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 01-28-2016, 08:39 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 01-29-2016, 01:40 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-29-2016, 04:21 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 04:26 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 06:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-29-2016, 06:59 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 12:43 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-29-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 02:21 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 01-29-2016, 02:32 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 02:40 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 02:56 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 03:45 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by knieft - 01-29-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-29-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-30-2016, 06:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-30-2016, 08:12 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Kenney - 01-31-2016, 06:48 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-01-2016, 03:15 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-01-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-02-2016, 12:53 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-02-2016, 03:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-02-2016, 04:07 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-02-2016, 05:19 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by beejee - 02-06-2016, 03:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-06-2016, 06:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-06-2016, 06:13 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-06-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-06-2016, 09:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-06-2016, 09:49 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-06-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by AKpilot - 02-06-2016, 11:26 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-06-2016, 11:42 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Chunkster - 02-06-2016, 12:20 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-06-2016, 05:50 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-06-2016, 06:38 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-07-2016, 04:38 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-07-2016, 06:47 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-07-2016, 07:11 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-09-2016, 03:57 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-09-2016, 06:06 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-09-2016, 07:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-09-2016, 08:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-09-2016, 08:49 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by leilanidude - 02-09-2016, 09:17 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-09-2016, 09:23 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-09-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-09-2016, 03:47 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-09-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-09-2016, 04:06 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-09-2016, 04:18 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-09-2016, 04:21 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-09-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-10-2016, 01:33 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by robguz - 02-10-2016, 07:04 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-10-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 08:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-10-2016, 08:43 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 02-10-2016, 08:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-10-2016, 10:24 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-10-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-10-2016, 12:11 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Chunkster - 02-10-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-10-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-10-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by SBH - 02-11-2016, 02:28 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by ironyak - 02-11-2016, 02:50 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 02-11-2016, 03:00 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-11-2016, 03:59 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-11-2016, 11:39 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-11-2016, 12:42 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 02-11-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-11-2016, 03:41 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 02-11-2016, 04:02 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-11-2016, 05:07 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-11-2016, 05:28 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-11-2016, 05:31 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-11-2016, 05:58 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-11-2016, 06:42 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 02-12-2016, 01:43 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-12-2016, 04:12 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dmbwest - 02-12-2016, 04:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-12-2016, 05:09 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-13-2016, 05:13 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-13-2016, 06:25 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Lodestone - 02-13-2016, 07:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by knieft - 02-13-2016, 07:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 02-13-2016, 12:00 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-13-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 12:40 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-13-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 01:32 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-13-2016, 01:55 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 02:29 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 02:38 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 02:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 04:23 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 06:48 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 07:56 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 02-14-2016, 05:25 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Lodestone - 02-14-2016, 06:16 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-14-2016, 03:21 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-14-2016, 04:00 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dmbwest - 02-14-2016, 05:09 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-14-2016, 06:18 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-14-2016, 06:38 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by ericlp - 02-14-2016, 07:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-14-2016, 09:32 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-15-2016, 04:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-15-2016, 04:50 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-15-2016, 05:10 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-15-2016, 05:15 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-15-2016, 05:29 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-15-2016, 07:06 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-15-2016, 07:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-15-2016, 08:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by MarkP - 02-15-2016, 08:23 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-15-2016, 08:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-15-2016, 08:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PaulW - 02-16-2016, 12:55 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 02-16-2016, 03:13 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-16-2016, 04:16 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-16-2016, 06:39 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-16-2016, 07:14 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-16-2016, 07:42 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Hawaii Bound - 02-17-2016, 03:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-17-2016, 04:09 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PaulW - 02-17-2016, 01:09 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-17-2016, 03:05 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-17-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-17-2016, 05:21 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Lodestone - 02-17-2016, 05:31 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-17-2016, 06:02 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by knieft - 02-18-2016, 01:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-18-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Lodestone - 02-18-2016, 04:30 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 02-18-2016, 04:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-18-2016, 04:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-18-2016, 05:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PaulW - 02-18-2016, 06:54 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by MattKarma - 02-18-2016, 07:51 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-19-2016, 03:28 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-20-2016, 04:32 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-20-2016, 05:18 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-22-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 02-23-2016, 01:45 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-26-2016, 03:42 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Chunkster - 02-26-2016, 05:41 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-26-2016, 06:18 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Chunkster - 02-26-2016, 06:21 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-26-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 02-26-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-26-2016, 05:53 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-26-2016, 06:36 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by PaulW - 02-27-2016, 03:36 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-28-2016, 10:18 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 03-03-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by ironyak - 03-03-2016, 09:38 AM
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