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It has to be remembered that TMT was a Senator Inouye backed project. There is a strange situation developing. TMT is now saying the state needs to let them know how much they want it. In many ways, TMT is saying they are doing the state a big favor by locating it on Mauna Kea. The state is basically agreeing they need and want it, but you know the rubber knee'd state.

There is massive crumbling starting to happen. HELCO just terminated their contract with Hu Honua for the biomass plant. That was going to mean a whole lot of things, like clearing out the eucalyptus PLANTATIONS to regrow the indigenous forest. This is also another massive engineering project totally collapsing financially. The bio diesel plant has to be next, its profit differential is being propped up by HELCO.

Senator Inouye was the only technology supporter in Hawaii. Nobody else supported any of it, the freeways, the telescopes, the military, the disneylands. There were and are a large group that was waiting for him to die to unravel everything he did like having major universities and research centers. If you are here just kicking it, then it won't be that noticeable. If you need to work, then otherwise.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-25-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-25-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-25-2016, 07:15 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by PaulW - 01-26-2016, 01:19 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-26-2016, 03:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 01-26-2016, 04:07 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-26-2016, 05:21 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 06:17 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by knieft - 01-26-2016, 06:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 07:02 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-26-2016, 07:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-26-2016, 08:01 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-26-2016, 08:18 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-26-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-26-2016, 03:02 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-26-2016, 03:24 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-26-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-26-2016, 09:45 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 01-27-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-27-2016, 03:00 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-27-2016, 04:03 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-27-2016, 05:28 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 01-27-2016, 05:58 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-28-2016, 05:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-28-2016, 06:47 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 01-28-2016, 07:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-28-2016, 07:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 08:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 09:10 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 10:16 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 10:20 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 10:48 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 10:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 10:56 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-28-2016, 11:15 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 11:28 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 01-28-2016, 11:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by The_Saints - 01-28-2016, 11:59 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-28-2016, 04:03 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-28-2016, 07:34 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 01-28-2016, 08:39 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 01-29-2016, 01:40 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-29-2016, 04:21 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 04:26 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 06:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-29-2016, 06:59 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 12:43 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 01-29-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 02:21 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 01-29-2016, 02:32 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 02:40 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 02:56 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 01-29-2016, 03:45 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by knieft - 01-29-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-29-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-29-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 01-30-2016, 06:52 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 01-30-2016, 08:12 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Kenney - 01-31-2016, 06:48 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-01-2016, 03:15 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-01-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-02-2016, 12:53 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-02-2016, 03:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-02-2016, 04:07 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-02-2016, 05:19 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by beejee - 02-06-2016, 03:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-06-2016, 06:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-06-2016, 06:13 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-06-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-06-2016, 09:32 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-06-2016, 09:49 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-06-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by AKpilot - 02-06-2016, 11:26 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-06-2016, 06:38 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-09-2016, 08:35 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-09-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-09-2016, 04:06 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-09-2016, 04:18 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-09-2016, 04:21 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-09-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-10-2016, 01:33 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 08:11 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 02-10-2016, 08:46 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-10-2016, 10:24 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-10-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-10-2016, 12:11 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-10-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Chunkster - 02-10-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-10-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-10-2016, 04:15 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 02-11-2016, 03:00 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 02-11-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-11-2016, 03:41 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Obie - 02-11-2016, 04:02 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-11-2016, 05:31 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by VancouverIslander - 02-12-2016, 01:43 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-12-2016, 04:12 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by dmbwest - 02-12-2016, 04:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-12-2016, 05:09 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-13-2016, 05:13 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 02-13-2016, 06:25 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Lodestone - 02-13-2016, 07:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by knieft - 02-13-2016, 07:51 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 02-13-2016, 12:00 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by Aaron S - 02-13-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 12:40 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-13-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 01:32 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by dakine - 02-13-2016, 01:55 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 02:29 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 02:38 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-13-2016, 02:51 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 04:23 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 06:48 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-13-2016, 07:56 PM
RE: Pointless thread - by snorkle - 02-14-2016, 05:25 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by dmbwest - 02-14-2016, 05:09 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by TomK - 02-14-2016, 06:38 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by ericlp - 02-14-2016, 07:51 PM
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RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 02-15-2016, 04:35 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by Guest - 02-15-2016, 04:50 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 03-01-2016, 05:31 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 03-01-2016, 05:33 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 03-01-2016, 05:36 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by pahoated - 03-03-2016, 08:09 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by PunaMauka2 - 03-03-2016, 09:09 AM
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RE: Pointless thread - by kalakoa - 03-03-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: Pointless thread - by ironyak - 03-03-2016, 09:38 AM
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