03-01-2016, 07:10 AM
Here's 5 things we KNOW. Some of the info was provided by member research w/data to back it.
1. The Fugitive Dust Committee was working w/the Finance Committee to come up with a 5-10 year chip seal plan.
2. The project with only 1 bid submitted, which is contrary to our corporate policy requiring 3, was to rent the contractor's equipment and hire his crew to operate the equipment. Now the project is going to be done in house w/the GM training our road crew to chip seal on 32nd and 33rd DE Makuu before pursuing the other roads.
3. The contractor the board was going to hire has legal issues with Orchidland over the chip seal work he had done and his company was shut down. We are either renting or have purchased this contractor's equipment to do chip seal. We've seen the contractor's equipment on HPP property.
4. Several months ago, the board quoted that the project would cost $350,000 for 7 miles, and further discussion at a board meeting was that HPP had an additional $500,000 to budget for chip seal. approx. $850,000 going into this project and it's an approximation because the board isn't talking.
5. The clearing and grubbing work started this month on 33rd DE Makuu. 32nd DE Makuu was done a few months ago. There's evidence that a stream crosses 32nd when it rains. Some chip seal was laid down on 33rd Thur or Fri this week.
Here's 11 things we DON'T KNOW: I want to be clear that I have nothing personal against the GM but the questions are legitimate professional questions regarding the business of HPP and it's chip seal project.....
1. Does the GM have a current contractor's license to do the road work since this is NOT road maintenance? This question was posed at the Oct 2015 membership mtg.
2. Did the board inquire with the State and County whether they need permits for the chip seal project? This was also brought to their attention at the Oct 2015 membership meeting. According to the County when clearing and grubbing more than an acre a permit is required.
3. Is an engineer involved in this project as should be to assess each road's topography prior, and oversee the project during and after laying emulsion down? Past HPP business practice was to hire an engineer because of existing drainage issues and humpy roads. This too was discussed at the Oct 2015 membership mtg.
4. Does the GM have experience in chip sealing?
5. Are we renting or have we purchased this contractor's equipment to do chip seal? If renting, is this legal since the contractor's business was shut down? How much is it costing per day/month if we're renting it?
6. How long will it take to train our road crew?
7. After their training period, will there be a test road done elsewhere in the park? If so, how long will it be tested to get accurate results? Some members feel it's a no brainer to test for a year minimum before proceeding with all the roads to ensure the chip seal holds well through our climate and traffic.
8. What is the time involved laying chip seal per mile?
9. What is the total cost per mile including our road crew labor?
10. Won't this put our daily road "maintenance" further behind? How will the board be handling the backlog?
11. Will there be enough money left to fund the restriping of our main drags and feeder roads, including the installation of reflectors? Many members feel this should be number one priority to make our roads safer for night time driving.
Many unanswered questions about chip seal and how it's business is being conducted. This degree of opposition and non transparency by the majority board should be a concern to all of us with the amount of our monies involved.
The board had plenty of opportunity to give the membership some answers but continued to be silent. One claimed falsely that there was a presentation given at a membership mtg.
Once they start chip sealing..no more asphalt for HPP. There won't be enough money left.
Here's food for thought...if the board is so hot to mitigate our dust issues in HPP as they claim, then why are they laying down substandard road material? Stuff that turns into dust in a short time. Is it to further their justification in laying chip seal down when people start complaining about the dust they're dropping on our roads? All road material isn't created equal and our road crew is inexperienced in grading and compacting it properly. They were hired to cut our grass. We CAN have better dirt roads no matter what the inexperienced board says while we wait for asphalt for our improved roads. There ARE other options.
1. The Fugitive Dust Committee was working w/the Finance Committee to come up with a 5-10 year chip seal plan.
2. The project with only 1 bid submitted, which is contrary to our corporate policy requiring 3, was to rent the contractor's equipment and hire his crew to operate the equipment. Now the project is going to be done in house w/the GM training our road crew to chip seal on 32nd and 33rd DE Makuu before pursuing the other roads.
3. The contractor the board was going to hire has legal issues with Orchidland over the chip seal work he had done and his company was shut down. We are either renting or have purchased this contractor's equipment to do chip seal. We've seen the contractor's equipment on HPP property.
4. Several months ago, the board quoted that the project would cost $350,000 for 7 miles, and further discussion at a board meeting was that HPP had an additional $500,000 to budget for chip seal. approx. $850,000 going into this project and it's an approximation because the board isn't talking.
5. The clearing and grubbing work started this month on 33rd DE Makuu. 32nd DE Makuu was done a few months ago. There's evidence that a stream crosses 32nd when it rains. Some chip seal was laid down on 33rd Thur or Fri this week.
Here's 11 things we DON'T KNOW: I want to be clear that I have nothing personal against the GM but the questions are legitimate professional questions regarding the business of HPP and it's chip seal project.....
1. Does the GM have a current contractor's license to do the road work since this is NOT road maintenance? This question was posed at the Oct 2015 membership mtg.
2. Did the board inquire with the State and County whether they need permits for the chip seal project? This was also brought to their attention at the Oct 2015 membership meeting. According to the County when clearing and grubbing more than an acre a permit is required.
3. Is an engineer involved in this project as should be to assess each road's topography prior, and oversee the project during and after laying emulsion down? Past HPP business practice was to hire an engineer because of existing drainage issues and humpy roads. This too was discussed at the Oct 2015 membership mtg.
4. Does the GM have experience in chip sealing?
5. Are we renting or have we purchased this contractor's equipment to do chip seal? If renting, is this legal since the contractor's business was shut down? How much is it costing per day/month if we're renting it?
6. How long will it take to train our road crew?
7. After their training period, will there be a test road done elsewhere in the park? If so, how long will it be tested to get accurate results? Some members feel it's a no brainer to test for a year minimum before proceeding with all the roads to ensure the chip seal holds well through our climate and traffic.
8. What is the time involved laying chip seal per mile?
9. What is the total cost per mile including our road crew labor?
10. Won't this put our daily road "maintenance" further behind? How will the board be handling the backlog?
11. Will there be enough money left to fund the restriping of our main drags and feeder roads, including the installation of reflectors? Many members feel this should be number one priority to make our roads safer for night time driving.
Many unanswered questions about chip seal and how it's business is being conducted. This degree of opposition and non transparency by the majority board should be a concern to all of us with the amount of our monies involved.
The board had plenty of opportunity to give the membership some answers but continued to be silent. One claimed falsely that there was a presentation given at a membership mtg.
Once they start chip sealing..no more asphalt for HPP. There won't be enough money left.
Here's food for thought...if the board is so hot to mitigate our dust issues in HPP as they claim, then why are they laying down substandard road material? Stuff that turns into dust in a short time. Is it to further their justification in laying chip seal down when people start complaining about the dust they're dropping on our roads? All road material isn't created equal and our road crew is inexperienced in grading and compacting it properly. They were hired to cut our grass. We CAN have better dirt roads no matter what the inexperienced board says while we wait for asphalt for our improved roads. There ARE other options.