06-26-2016, 11:54 AM
S R (Ilagan) "worked to kill a proposal that would have at least studied possible routes for the PMAR"
Why on earth do we need another study?
" Hawaiian Paradise Park PMAR committee: On July 30, 2011, after studying the most recent proposal for PMAR, having met repeatedly with county officials, held public meetings in HPP and with other HPP civic groups, and having conducted a survey of residents,"
From the article:
"Further, Shipman has provided a number of solutions using our properties to address growing traffic problems in lower Puna. Those include, building frontage roads separate from Highway 130 but next to it between Shower Road in HPP and Keaau. Further, the county working with council members from this district and the Puna Action Committee has come up with excellent plans that would improve the already existing alternative routes to lower Puna mauka of Highway 130."
This doesn't sound like Greggor Ilagan and Danny Paleka are doing nothing as the Ruderman camp wants you to believe, no matter how you try to spin it. It sounds more like a possible solution versus an impossible solution.
Everyone seems fixated on Railroad but, again from the article:
"The roadway would, further, break up farms and make internal traffic more difficult. Sen. Ruderman seeks to diminish these concerns by suggesting the road be used for walking and biking primarily and there is little or no risk from such activities. Such an incursion, however, designed also for emergency vehicle use would end up being utilized (legally or not) by ATVs and other equipment widely used by thieves and hunters who are causing major damage."
REALITY TIME!
My God walk to Hilo! That's a 7 hour trek, each way, half that on a bike. Work soaking wet 8 hours and 7 hours home (=22 hrs). Sleep and eat for 2 hours then back to the trail. I am picturing those wagon train movies with all the bones along the way.
Ruderman poo pooed Hawaiian Homes opposition, but it is no small matter, and you had better believe Hawaiian Homes has more horse power in Honolulu that any Senator from anywhere, let alone Puna, will ever have. There are 24 other Senators and I would bet they are all more sympathetic toward Hawaiian Homes than they are to the angry people from Puna.
On top of that Shipman is not just Shipman; it is part of a network of old kamaaina family estates, Bishop and Campbell estates to name a few. Calling them names, not to mention lying, and stomping your feet at public forums will accomplish nothing, but cause them to circle the wagons. If you think they are without influence at the Legislature your sadly mistaken. Besides it is always much easier NOT to spend money in someone else's district
The mind set that anyone who disagrees with me is an evil crook is counter productive in the extreme.
Democracy functions when people come together, and identify problems. The result usually is they come up with imperfect solutions that work.
kalakoa is correct about development in Puna reducing traffic; however it will not stop the need to get to Hilo Airport, Hospital, and a hundred other jobs and services. I wish it could.
Why on earth do we need another study?
" Hawaiian Paradise Park PMAR committee: On July 30, 2011, after studying the most recent proposal for PMAR, having met repeatedly with county officials, held public meetings in HPP and with other HPP civic groups, and having conducted a survey of residents,"
From the article:
"Further, Shipman has provided a number of solutions using our properties to address growing traffic problems in lower Puna. Those include, building frontage roads separate from Highway 130 but next to it between Shower Road in HPP and Keaau. Further, the county working with council members from this district and the Puna Action Committee has come up with excellent plans that would improve the already existing alternative routes to lower Puna mauka of Highway 130."
This doesn't sound like Greggor Ilagan and Danny Paleka are doing nothing as the Ruderman camp wants you to believe, no matter how you try to spin it. It sounds more like a possible solution versus an impossible solution.
Everyone seems fixated on Railroad but, again from the article:
"The roadway would, further, break up farms and make internal traffic more difficult. Sen. Ruderman seeks to diminish these concerns by suggesting the road be used for walking and biking primarily and there is little or no risk from such activities. Such an incursion, however, designed also for emergency vehicle use would end up being utilized (legally or not) by ATVs and other equipment widely used by thieves and hunters who are causing major damage."
REALITY TIME!
My God walk to Hilo! That's a 7 hour trek, each way, half that on a bike. Work soaking wet 8 hours and 7 hours home (=22 hrs). Sleep and eat for 2 hours then back to the trail. I am picturing those wagon train movies with all the bones along the way.
Ruderman poo pooed Hawaiian Homes opposition, but it is no small matter, and you had better believe Hawaiian Homes has more horse power in Honolulu that any Senator from anywhere, let alone Puna, will ever have. There are 24 other Senators and I would bet they are all more sympathetic toward Hawaiian Homes than they are to the angry people from Puna.
On top of that Shipman is not just Shipman; it is part of a network of old kamaaina family estates, Bishop and Campbell estates to name a few. Calling them names, not to mention lying, and stomping your feet at public forums will accomplish nothing, but cause them to circle the wagons. If you think they are without influence at the Legislature your sadly mistaken. Besides it is always much easier NOT to spend money in someone else's district
The mind set that anyone who disagrees with me is an evil crook is counter productive in the extreme.
Democracy functions when people come together, and identify problems. The result usually is they come up with imperfect solutions that work.
kalakoa is correct about development in Puna reducing traffic; however it will not stop the need to get to Hilo Airport, Hospital, and a hundred other jobs and services. I wish it could.