12-31-2016, 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by mermaid53
The management of a large subdivision like ours with millions of dollars in revenue should be in the hands of professional third party, who would have to account for everything they do to a Board whose exclusive task would be to follow the bylaws and no thing else. This association cannot be self managed by a group of ever changing volunteers! This mess has been going on since time inmemoriam and to put it mildly the time to change all this bizarre state of affairs was yesterday. The meaning of insanity is expecting different results while perpetuating the same old tired routine.
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Johnd, it looks like someone has to start researching 3rd party mgmt options and present it to the membership at the Feb membership mtg and take a vote. How much will it cost us vs what we're doing now? We'll still need a board bc of the bond requirement. How much power they'll have w/a mgmt company in place is another question. The bond requirements will have to be researched.
Some members have spoken of going into receivership, but I heard the last time we were in receivership, we didn't have a bond. If we went into receivership, the chip seal project would come to a screeching halt.
Someone presented the 3rd party mgmt option at the last membership mtg. Unfortunately she didn't have all her facts gathered when she made her motion to form a committee to research this option, and her motion failed.
I am in total agreement w/you, Kenny and Chunkster. Us doling $$$$ out every year and getting nothing in return is unacceptable.
Special membership mtg? How else can the membership unite to challenge the board? 100 signatures would be easy to gather to request a membership mtg.
You probably will get way more than a hundred signatures. But, if the Board is so self protecting, spending our money for lawyers to just mediate.. And now proposing to what basically will be an amendment to the bylaws.. It does not look pretty.
Mermaid, I think receivership is probably the best think that can happen. There is no talking to this board or the others. That is clear from just the standpoint that our fees are no longer serving the purpose and actually never did.
I stand by calling their bluff in mass and for owners to stop paying the fees and send all this convoluted mess where it belongs.. To hell. This board and others have failed... Miserably.... but they will not go away just because you and I say so. So we need collective action, they board carved its own grave this time.
You keep talking about bylaws, when did the bylaws have actually helped? We are mired in a bureaucratic hell hole of sorts with no end in sight. We cannot even begin to present a third party management option study with the Board we have...
I think we need a clean slate, either we have management company which most probably will end up being court appointed, or we just have a cooperative of neighbors pulling sweat equity to maintain out roads, which by the way will not take that much to do if we compare what we have right now.
I have heard folks say that our main roads will deteriorate if we do not support the bylaws, really? Because they are not deteriorating now? Our main roads are a liabilility right now. I had asked the previous manager to keep main side roads areas mowed and trees trimmed to have good driving visibility in some areas. Then, he was receptive... What happened to him and what do we have now? To make a long story short, those folks arguments about the main roads do not hold water anymore, it is evident that we cannot count in the wisdom of a Board.
I hear loud and clear that Lower Puna wants the County to open Railroad as a secondary road, my view? Great, let's propose that, in exchange for the County taking over the maintenance of the main roads. Everyone uses our privately paid roads already and they only contribute wear and tear!
I personally would be happier if we had control over the maintenance of our particular roads, I think that we can do a better job to keep them viable, and some of us are already doing that. No more fees, the bondholders either take a cut or they can take the roads back..
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