01-26-2017, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by Chunkster
Mermaid, I respect your multiple efforts over the years to improve HPP, but forming yet another committee, doing yet another by-laws revision, attending just one more meeting, or trying one more time to elect some decent board members is not going to help. The fundamental problem with the HPPOA is what several other people have said, i.e., the whole thing is beyond what a volunteer board can handle.
A number of members who post on here say property mgmt is the way to go and I agree...but how does that get launched w/out a committee researching A-Z first? Doesn't have to be an HPPOA committee per se but a group of interested lot owners coming together. I have no plans to spearhead this but will support it...so who's going to do it?
I am prepared to contribute again, but only if the objective is to place the whole mess into court supervised receivership pending its dissolution or replacement from the ground up with appointed outside directors. This will require legal action. Surely there is an attorney living in HPP who is fed up with the craziness and would help with this. If not, then we need to raise the necessary money to do it. I will chip in.
Will you do the foot work to find an atty in HPP, possibly pro bono? You say "we need to raise the necessary money to do it", so who's going to spearhead that? Who's WE?
I could regale you all with five pages of the sorry history going back through the 15 years I have been involved in the HPPOA, but let's just say that self government for HPP has been an abject failure. The system is broken and needs to be replaced from the ground up.
I agree. But again, who's going to spearhead fixing this broken system from the ground up? Isn't that the failure here as well that no one comes forward to spearhead all these good ideas?
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Albert Einstein
I like this one better: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke
Both quotes apply... Nothing will change unless people take action, not just talk about it ("same thing over and over again and expecting different results")
At least the BLC is taking action. Not only does the board look for gray areas in our bylaws but so does their attys...
Mermaid, I respect your multiple efforts over the years to improve HPP, but forming yet another committee, doing yet another by-laws revision, attending just one more meeting, or trying one more time to elect some decent board members is not going to help. The fundamental problem with the HPPOA is what several other people have said, i.e., the whole thing is beyond what a volunteer board can handle.
A number of members who post on here say property mgmt is the way to go and I agree...but how does that get launched w/out a committee researching A-Z first? Doesn't have to be an HPPOA committee per se but a group of interested lot owners coming together. I have no plans to spearhead this but will support it...so who's going to do it?
I am prepared to contribute again, but only if the objective is to place the whole mess into court supervised receivership pending its dissolution or replacement from the ground up with appointed outside directors. This will require legal action. Surely there is an attorney living in HPP who is fed up with the craziness and would help with this. If not, then we need to raise the necessary money to do it. I will chip in.
Will you do the foot work to find an atty in HPP, possibly pro bono? You say "we need to raise the necessary money to do it", so who's going to spearhead that? Who's WE?
I could regale you all with five pages of the sorry history going back through the 15 years I have been involved in the HPPOA, but let's just say that self government for HPP has been an abject failure. The system is broken and needs to be replaced from the ground up.
I agree. But again, who's going to spearhead fixing this broken system from the ground up? Isn't that the failure here as well that no one comes forward to spearhead all these good ideas?
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Albert Einstein
I like this one better: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke
Both quotes apply... Nothing will change unless people take action, not just talk about it ("same thing over and over again and expecting different results")
At least the BLC is taking action. Not only does the board look for gray areas in our bylaws but so does their attys...