01-29-2017, 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by geochem
Maybe to offer a little balance in the JBF-bashing going on, in the early days of the recognition of the ROD, surveys done on the locations where ohia were going down indicated that much of the die-off was occurring along the Kilauea rift zone where there were recognized surface fractures and ground cracks. JB and others who had the data suspected that it could be associated with any number of processes that might be occurring at those locations ranging from ground movement along the fractures causing stresses on the root systems, or possibly thermal or carbon dioxide emissions from the fractures could be responsible. Hence their early interest in the root systems. They were, and continue to, follow good scientific protocols: systematically gather and interpret observational data,form a hypothesis, and develop new observational data to test and/or disprove/modify that hypothesis. Going off in twenty different directions based on uncertain/conflicting/undocumented anecdotal claims isn't good science and, when you have limited time and limited resources as most University researchers do, it isn't productive.
And your glowing opinion of folk-medicine notwithstanding, although some have been shown to have a biochemical basis in reality, most were unproductive if not counterproductive... If bitten by a snake, I'd much prefer anti-venom to shamanism any day.
Well I would like to go back to the meeting I talked about with JB in Nanawale.
This has to do with as far as I know his first guess of what was going on with the die off of ohia.
As the report I talked about is not on line as I know I can only state what is on the report I have.
It is a photo of lower Puna that was taken from satellite.
It shows fault lines and dieback markings. And then it shows the ROADS DRIVEN by the survey. Its doesnt show are mention anything about JB getting out and sniffing about. He only stated that he sent his jar heads out to dig for roots in the tunnels as he THOUGHT is was due to drought. Sheit mon I've been here over 35 years and seen many droughts without dieoff.
So I am wondering does he ever take a look at reality or does he just look over what his minions bring back to him?
Has JB ever got his hands in the ohia dieback filth. If so please provide verification of his sweating in the Puna outback. Can you even show a picture of him doing real physical work? Just a picture?
Oh and after reading this again I dont see your going off in 20 different direction to be valid. OG is only going in one main direction at this time. It is using ohia ash as a possible stop or slowdown to the spread of ROD.
Why cant the university of Hawaii try a plot of that experiment.?
Slow Walker