03-01-2017, 04:16 AM
quote:Aloha kakahiaka, Kirt, and all. Mahalo for your kind words. I should have been more clear in my post re: Wilma Holi. Her testimony was only important as to our Hawaiian cultural beliefs and experiences. I was taken aback when she discussed some things that are very "Kapu".
Originally posted by knieft
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Originally posted by opihikao
It would behoove some on this forum to listen...carefully, to her words. You may not understand, you may disagree, you may not grasp the entirety of her position. Nevertheless, in my view, her mana'o is pure truth, and of our Kupuna.
opihikao,
You are the OP and I sometimes imagine you as Judge Amano since I have a tendency to imagine pleasant things while watching the meanderings of the hearings.
You obviously feel strongly that Mrs. Holi's testimony was important. I watched half of the long vid and all of the bigislandvideonews vid. Perhaps I am wrong to post without seeing _all_ of the long vid...
However. You state: "You may not understand, you may disagree, you may not grasp the entirety of her position. Nevertheless, in my view, her mana'o is pure truth, and of our Kupuna"
Since I am a big fan (not) of "pure truth" I must say that I am at a loss to see what any of the testimony actually has to do with the TMT. I admit that I am likely not to grasp the entirety of her position.
Still, I am hoping you can specify which moments of the testimony and/or cross examination would be swaying to someone, as myself, who considers that the crowning tech of centuries of scientific inquiry, and the crowning tech of several nations who put their money where their mouth is, should be banned from the best planetary site for its construction.
All told, I watch the "contested case hearings" and wonder what the point is. To give anyone, anywhere, anyhow, the status to "question" anyone, anywhere, anyhow? And then what? Judge Amano gets to rule what?
I suspect you may dismiss my queries as is your prerogative, but I very much wonder if can can turn me in the better direction on this whole thing.
Cheers,
Kirt
Given Judge Amano's respect for Mrs. Holi, and her being the Judge's witness, gave Mrs. Holi "credibility" (in my view). There were no "special moments" in her testimony, nor was her testimony meant to sway anyone's opinion. I did get to visit with her after her testimony, and do have great respect for her as Kupuna, and don't necessarily completely agree with her (we are from different ohana, and teachings).
As to Judge Amano making a decision, "then what?", to answer your question, I believe either way she rules, it will be appealed. No question. Not to mention, there is another potential Contested Case Hearing upcoming due to Judge Namamura vacating the TMT sublease with the UH. SMH.
I attended the hearing yesterday, and found the rebuttal witness, Brian Cruz's testimony very interesting. He addressed the Cultural Impact Assessment and the EIS, some of which was quite damaging to the UH/TMT case.
Judge Amano has handled this case with so much patience and guidance, yet is tough when need be. She really is a wonderful woman, and I thanked her for her good work. She has a great sense of humor, and controls the hearing with respectful handling of each participant. At the very least, no one can say Judge Amano was "unfair", nor can anyone claim she is biased.
Mr. Tom, mahalo, and I have great respect for you, too. A'ole pilikia! (Warmest aloha to Pam). No matter how this turns out, the one thing that needs to be said is: (Most) Hawaiians are not against science. The issue with TMT is the State/BLNR/DLNR/UH failed miserably in the management of Mauna Kea, the process is flawed in issuing permits (including TMT), and all parties are to blame for where we are today.
Hopefully, we can move forward, without further division. I have tried to stay out of this thread of late, as the back and forth in the minutia of this case is counterproductive. I trust this will be a learning curve for ALL (elected officials/appointed officials/the public at large).
Have a lovely day all. Mahalo ke Akua, e na Aumakua, e na Kupuna.
As always, JMO.