03-04-2017, 05:36 AM
HOTPE asked "So are you saying the Protectors find these places "sacred," right up until the price is right?"
No I'm saying the TMT project was always a foregone conclusion...and the best that can be hoped for by protesters is to be taken into consideration....at all, financially, spiritually, and yes emotional health is a factor that does have many legal precedents pre-established in the American Court System as a means of protecting oneself civilly. Initially those lands were being given away and NO One was talking about Hawaiian Mysticism or the Sacredness of the Land which is like breathe to some local residents. The legal precedent that could have been very Helpful to Mauna Kea protectors was the Dakota Access Pipeline Protest that ended with armed militia arriving. With that loss it seems the outcome on our mountain top is written.
My personal view is that Science and Spirituality are going to have to learn how to get along because they are soon to share a bedroom like annoyed stepsisters. I'm on Team Dalai-Lama & Pope Francis with this one. Both equally spark my imagination and I think the two realms are more interconnected than many allow or "Spooky at a Distance" as it were
It's pretty clear which sister outweighs the other one in this particular instance.
No I'm saying the TMT project was always a foregone conclusion...and the best that can be hoped for by protesters is to be taken into consideration....at all, financially, spiritually, and yes emotional health is a factor that does have many legal precedents pre-established in the American Court System as a means of protecting oneself civilly. Initially those lands were being given away and NO One was talking about Hawaiian Mysticism or the Sacredness of the Land which is like breathe to some local residents. The legal precedent that could have been very Helpful to Mauna Kea protectors was the Dakota Access Pipeline Protest that ended with armed militia arriving. With that loss it seems the outcome on our mountain top is written.
My personal view is that Science and Spirituality are going to have to learn how to get along because they are soon to share a bedroom like annoyed stepsisters. I'm on Team Dalai-Lama & Pope Francis with this one. Both equally spark my imagination and I think the two realms are more interconnected than many allow or "Spooky at a Distance" as it were
It's pretty clear which sister outweighs the other one in this particular instance.