04-22-2017, 03:55 PM
(I brought this over to this thread to keep the topic in check...it came from HPP mailbox vote)
Leo posted: It's been evident the General Mgr doesn't know how to do his job. It's evident the board representatives don't know how to manage him or a road business. It's evident we have dust because there's no rock on the dirt roads and now the association is paying out for Dept of Health fines. It's evident chip seal isn't the solution. All one has to do is look at the chip seal roads. It's evident they're swapping out safety and road maintenance for a failing board and General Mgr agenda. It's evident they're wasting a lot of association money. How do we stop this absurdity and get back on track?
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kalakoa's response:
That's a matter of perspective and opinion. I'm sure the GM's CS buddies think he's doing a great job.
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And I wonder if the GM's "CS buddies" are aware that at minimum 3 layers of CS was recommended by the guy who's been renting the CS equipment to us over the past 2 yrs? Not just the one layer they've been putting on all the CS'd roads. You can see the base coarse underneath, and/or on top in some areas where it's real thin.
Wouldn't that mean it'd cost approx 3 x's as much to do one mile of 3 layers of CS? It's been approx $80,000-85,000 per mile for a single layer. IMO it would seem not a wise business decision to do this work on the cheap. We are already seeing the substandard results not only to those CS'd roads, but the subsequent neglect to the entire park. And they're setting aside $650,000 for more CS instead of maintaining our roads?
BTW, where are they storing the CS equipment? I haven't seen it in the HPP yard for a long time. Since it's not there, then logically wouldn't that mean it's being stored somewhere in the park? I haven't seen it on any of our 20 acre lots. If not there, then where? Has anyone seen it anywhere? Are we renting space somewhere? If so, how much is that costing the association? And if so, that $ should be added to the cost of the CS project per mile, right? It makes one wonder if this is another reason the CS biz has been non transparent to the association and the FC? If there's nothing to hide, then why the lack of transparency?
I posted this on this thread 3/31/17:
L Rd is a good visual example of identifying what easements owners are taking care of vs undeveloped lots that the board and GM are neglecting. Being a paved road vehicles travel faster, and in much narrower lanes due to overgrowth. While biking, a large dump truck traveled down the middle of the road this morning and I barely had room between me and the dump truck...it was scary. While walking the other morning it was a pick up truck traveling fast down the middle of the road and same situation of not being able to get off the asphalt onto the easement bc of the overgrowth.
Approx 3-5 days after posting this, the entire Kaloli Point had 2 yrs of easement growth finally maintained. Coincidence? Tall buffalo/cane grass and bushes were whacked back 3' or more. It took 3 full days. It's so much safer on L Rd now for pedestrians, bikers and vehicles. My point, there are board reps who read PT. Mahalo for making the roads safer down on KP whomever prompted the maint on KP....new Dist 5 rep?
Leo posted: It's been evident the General Mgr doesn't know how to do his job. It's evident the board representatives don't know how to manage him or a road business. It's evident we have dust because there's no rock on the dirt roads and now the association is paying out for Dept of Health fines. It's evident chip seal isn't the solution. All one has to do is look at the chip seal roads. It's evident they're swapping out safety and road maintenance for a failing board and General Mgr agenda. It's evident they're wasting a lot of association money. How do we stop this absurdity and get back on track?
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kalakoa's response:
That's a matter of perspective and opinion. I'm sure the GM's CS buddies think he's doing a great job.
_____________
And I wonder if the GM's "CS buddies" are aware that at minimum 3 layers of CS was recommended by the guy who's been renting the CS equipment to us over the past 2 yrs? Not just the one layer they've been putting on all the CS'd roads. You can see the base coarse underneath, and/or on top in some areas where it's real thin.
Wouldn't that mean it'd cost approx 3 x's as much to do one mile of 3 layers of CS? It's been approx $80,000-85,000 per mile for a single layer. IMO it would seem not a wise business decision to do this work on the cheap. We are already seeing the substandard results not only to those CS'd roads, but the subsequent neglect to the entire park. And they're setting aside $650,000 for more CS instead of maintaining our roads?
BTW, where are they storing the CS equipment? I haven't seen it in the HPP yard for a long time. Since it's not there, then logically wouldn't that mean it's being stored somewhere in the park? I haven't seen it on any of our 20 acre lots. If not there, then where? Has anyone seen it anywhere? Are we renting space somewhere? If so, how much is that costing the association? And if so, that $ should be added to the cost of the CS project per mile, right? It makes one wonder if this is another reason the CS biz has been non transparent to the association and the FC? If there's nothing to hide, then why the lack of transparency?
I posted this on this thread 3/31/17:
L Rd is a good visual example of identifying what easements owners are taking care of vs undeveloped lots that the board and GM are neglecting. Being a paved road vehicles travel faster, and in much narrower lanes due to overgrowth. While biking, a large dump truck traveled down the middle of the road this morning and I barely had room between me and the dump truck...it was scary. While walking the other morning it was a pick up truck traveling fast down the middle of the road and same situation of not being able to get off the asphalt onto the easement bc of the overgrowth.
Approx 3-5 days after posting this, the entire Kaloli Point had 2 yrs of easement growth finally maintained. Coincidence? Tall buffalo/cane grass and bushes were whacked back 3' or more. It took 3 full days. It's so much safer on L Rd now for pedestrians, bikers and vehicles. My point, there are board reps who read PT. Mahalo for making the roads safer down on KP whomever prompted the maint on KP....new Dist 5 rep?