05-03-2017, 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by ohiagrrl
Thanks for being informative Eric, I was only able to watch some of the hearings but am watching specific ones people point me to retroactively. Please feel free to tell me which particular witnesses you believe would help dispel my misguided beliefs.
I didn't say your beliefs were misguided, just that you should be more careful with making assumptions.
There were several people who talked about OMKM practices, TMT contributions and Native Hawaiian views that support the TMT. Here's just a few I can think of off the top of my head. I can't remember everyone.
* Chad Kalepa Baybayan
* Gunther Hasinger
* Keahi Warfield
* Wallace Ishibashi
* Richard Ha
There are a few others, which I can't recall at the moment.
Many are challenged with not being Hawaiian enough:
“Where did you grow up?”
“How old were you when you learned that?”
“Who taught you that?”
“When was the last time you were on Mauna Kea?”
“When did you last worship on Mauna Kea?”
“Where did your family worship?”
“Do you pray to Poli'ahu?”
“Who are the parents of Poli'ahu?”
As for Native Hawaiian involvement in manageing Mauna Kea which you seemed to think doesn't happen, the problem is the petitioners don't agree with who is native Hawaiian enough either for proper oversight. For many if things aren't getting torn down today then they are wrong. Mauna Kea Management and Hawaiian involvement: http://www.malamamaunakea.org/hawaiian-culture
glinda, TMT has planned starting in 2008 to find ways to help Hawaii be competitive in STEM fields. After meeting with the community they started a $1 million per year fund based on community recommendations and managed by locals. Funding robotics since 2010 and they've paid for many trips and clubs. Results in 2011:
Four high schools on Hawaii's big island have received funds from the TMT Project to date [2011] – Hilo High School, Kealakehe High School, Kohala High School and Waiakea High School – as well as Earl's Garage, a community-based, science-and-technology extracurricular organization in Waimea.
http://www.tmt.org/news-center/aloha-mr-...tics-teams
Other things funded by TMT ($1 million / year):
* Applied Science supplies and kits to the Volcano School of Arts and Science public charter school, grades 3-5
* What is STEAM & Why My Students Need Your Help Please, to the Laup'hoehoe Community Public Charter School, grades 3-5
* Future Health Professional—Providing Hope for the Rural Community, to Ka‘#363; High & Pahala Elementary School, grades 9-12
* Narrow the Achievement Gap in Mathematics, to Konawaena Middle School, grades 6-8
* March 2015, $500,000 in STEM Learning Grants were awarded to 23 Hawai‘i Island organizations.
* 2015, 24 Hawai‘i Island students received a total of $95,500 in awards ranging from $3-7,500. The students are pursuing 17 different STEM degrees, from aerospace engineering to zoology.
Thank you Glinda! Ka'u kids built an award winning solar car with no help from TMT. TMT AS Savior. Not so much.
This is really an unhelpful attitude. I also personally donate time and money to educate kids, so I know that it takes a community, not just one donor. Not once did I say they were a "savior" and getting $19 million bonus dollars for education is not something that should be ignored. And the TMT precedent will only encourage others to follow suit.
I should mention I'm not a astronomer or have anything to do with astronomy other than enjoying the night sky, having sailed the oceans myself. I appreciate the skills the ancient star finders used more than most people probably do. I'm a big supporter of STEM education and kids getting a chance to be successful.