07-31-2017, 11:57 PM
Thank you terracore, lquade, and kalakoa.
Great to know the county will mostlikely work with me if/when I go over the 3 year allotment of the permit.
I will certainly take your warnings of theft very seriously.
I am hoping to explore ways one can can deter theft if forced to commute to building site. Here will be my current measures to deter theft.. any additional ideas welcome:
1) Build the garage first so I can lock up any supplies / tools.
2) Camp on the premises while framing / completing water tight shell.
3) Plan material deliveries around my scheduled project... only deliver materials I will need per scheduled trip.
4) ADT security system... purchase whatever package is best for my situation and have installed when garage is up.. motion lights, audio alarm, auto call to police, cell notification, auto reset, etc.
5) Make nice with all neighbors and ask to keep an eye on the lot. I actually bought the lot from the immediate neighbor. Have yet to meet them, but I dont think this will be a problem.
6) My first trip next month, I will be installing a field fence around the lot and planting trees (we bought a ripped/graded lot). Will probably hire contractor to install a gate.
I know most of these things on their own will not make the site 100% crime/theft proof, but I hope the combination of everything will decrease the risk substantially.
lquade... I know this really does not help my particular case too much, but just a small optimistic note: when we were researching HPP prior to our lot purchase, we looked at crime stats quite a bit. Researching the HPP neighborhood watch sites, they list a few stats on HPP crime: Crime type, location of crimes, crime frequency by the month and year, etc. Dates back to 2010. Based on their stats, crime has been dropping substantially since 2013. We were very happy to see this.
Thanks for the replies!
Scott
Scott
Great to know the county will mostlikely work with me if/when I go over the 3 year allotment of the permit.
I will certainly take your warnings of theft very seriously.
I am hoping to explore ways one can can deter theft if forced to commute to building site. Here will be my current measures to deter theft.. any additional ideas welcome:
1) Build the garage first so I can lock up any supplies / tools.
2) Camp on the premises while framing / completing water tight shell.
3) Plan material deliveries around my scheduled project... only deliver materials I will need per scheduled trip.
4) ADT security system... purchase whatever package is best for my situation and have installed when garage is up.. motion lights, audio alarm, auto call to police, cell notification, auto reset, etc.
5) Make nice with all neighbors and ask to keep an eye on the lot. I actually bought the lot from the immediate neighbor. Have yet to meet them, but I dont think this will be a problem.
6) My first trip next month, I will be installing a field fence around the lot and planting trees (we bought a ripped/graded lot). Will probably hire contractor to install a gate.
I know most of these things on their own will not make the site 100% crime/theft proof, but I hope the combination of everything will decrease the risk substantially.
lquade... I know this really does not help my particular case too much, but just a small optimistic note: when we were researching HPP prior to our lot purchase, we looked at crime stats quite a bit. Researching the HPP neighborhood watch sites, they list a few stats on HPP crime: Crime type, location of crimes, crime frequency by the month and year, etc. Dates back to 2010. Based on their stats, crime has been dropping substantially since 2013. We were very happy to see this.
Thanks for the replies!
Scott
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Originally posted by terracore
Our neighbors live nearby and are building a house even closer. Somebody ripped the steel roofing off after it was already installed. That took trucks, ladders, tools, time, several people... all kinds of stuff. If they couldn't stop the theft from a few blocks away, there is no way you are going to be able to do that from Chicago. The Paradise Tax takes many forms, dealing with an overwhelmed police department and an underwhelming prosecutor are two of them.
I remember a friend of mine did missionary work in Costa Rica, and she said the theft was so bad that when a business was installing an iron fence, they had to hire security guards to guard the fence posts until the concrete had set, otherwise they would have been stolen. When I was living in Alaska that really surprised me. Now it just seems like common sense.
I lived in a high-crime area in an inner city, literally next door to a crack house, hopefully your experiences in Chicago are better, but the crimes there made more sense. They would steal things from your house or car they could quickly convert to cash to get their next fix. Usually stuff they could run away with. We have that here too, but also people steal from your house....things they need to build and furnish a house. They will steal a tow truck, so that they can steal cars, so that they can use the stolen cars to smash gates in and steal from houses. (All of these have actually happened lately). The unattended lot with all those tempting building supplies (being stored or nailed together is irrelevant) is the lowest hanging fruit.
Maybe things will be better here in 3 years, but until then, wait before you spend any money on building your dream home. Until then, check out the Big Island Thieves facebook group so you can read the hysteria.
Scott
Scott