12-10-2017, 05:20 AM
HOTPE, your interpretation of history relies on some very selective readings of the founders. My rights are already protected but I don't think others should have their rights withheld without a very good challengeable cause.
As to a previous comment. I believe that a person carrying based on an out of state permit would still have to abide by the State's registration rules. I forgot what it was but 5 days comes to mind. So if your visit is more than 5 days you have to register. The person would also likely be constrained by the State's magazine capacity laws. So if your carry gun holds more than that you'll either have to buy a different gun or get mags that can't be altered to hold more than 10. I personally consider 10 plenty but it's almost hard to find modern handguns that don't hold more. At least that's the case with .40 caliber and under semi-autos and that what's now in common use. A compact Glock 9mm holds 14 with the .40 holding 12. A full size glock 9mm holds something like 18. Those are standard capacity numbers.
That said, I'm not at all convinced the law will pass the Senate. The State's rights issue held up the LEOSA for several years and will likely do the same with this issue. There are valid State's Rights arguments against passing it. The problem isn't really an issue with Hawaii anyhow as you have to get on a plane or boat to get there, but a Citizen shouldn't be in legal jeopardy for simply crossing a State line which is so easily done on the mainland.
I don't need a CCW due to Federal law but I have one from Florida just because there are unfortunately some cops out there that aren't conscientious enough to know the law. I thought about getting one from Hawaii but in Hawaii you have to release your medical records to them and get a waiver from your doctor or some such silliness. I'm not big on giving out my medical records to anyone. Besides, I've only been institutionalized a few times and I'm taking all of my meds now. ***JOKE***
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
As to a previous comment. I believe that a person carrying based on an out of state permit would still have to abide by the State's registration rules. I forgot what it was but 5 days comes to mind. So if your visit is more than 5 days you have to register. The person would also likely be constrained by the State's magazine capacity laws. So if your carry gun holds more than that you'll either have to buy a different gun or get mags that can't be altered to hold more than 10. I personally consider 10 plenty but it's almost hard to find modern handguns that don't hold more. At least that's the case with .40 caliber and under semi-autos and that what's now in common use. A compact Glock 9mm holds 14 with the .40 holding 12. A full size glock 9mm holds something like 18. Those are standard capacity numbers.
That said, I'm not at all convinced the law will pass the Senate. The State's rights issue held up the LEOSA for several years and will likely do the same with this issue. There are valid State's Rights arguments against passing it. The problem isn't really an issue with Hawaii anyhow as you have to get on a plane or boat to get there, but a Citizen shouldn't be in legal jeopardy for simply crossing a State line which is so easily done on the mainland.
I don't need a CCW due to Federal law but I have one from Florida just because there are unfortunately some cops out there that aren't conscientious enough to know the law. I thought about getting one from Hawaii but in Hawaii you have to release your medical records to them and get a waiver from your doctor or some such silliness. I'm not big on giving out my medical records to anyone. Besides, I've only been institutionalized a few times and I'm taking all of my meds now. ***JOKE***
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
S. FL
Big Islander to be.