12-10-2017, 11:43 AM
“America is gun happy, and those that want guns never say anything about why it is that by world standards they are so over the top possessed by guns. This should be on the table, talked about, and legislation to correct it passed. AND, if that doesn't work we should have all guns confiscated.”
Wow. I am a gun owner and in no way am I over the top possessed by guns. It is a Constitutional right that I choose to exercise. And for those that may be ‘over the top’ you cannot legislate how people think or feel. Maybe you can explain why you are so rabidly anti-gun? AND, gun confiscation really is not a solution. By definition criminals ignore laws. Do you really think they will turn in their guns because the government asks them nicely?
The UK is asking nicely, again, for folks to turn in their guns:
https://news.sky.com/story/firearms-amne...r-11124745
“national figures revealed the number of crimes involving firearms in England and Wales increased by 27% to 6,696 in the year ending June 2017.”
Gun confiscation by force by the government thereby trampling on a Constitutional right (trampling on the 2nd Amendment and violating the 4th Amendment) is the very reason the founders felt it important the populace be armed. As terracore pointed out, it is protection against tyranny. Madison covered it in Federalist 46 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._46) and Jefferson said, "“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
With that said, the right to bear arms is not exactly the same as CCW. I do not have an issue with CCW in general – I think Hawaii is too restrictive, but I don’t think they should be passed out like candy either. The States do have reciprocity for Driver Licenses and drivers kill more folks every year than lawful gun owners do. However, I can see an argument that this is a State's rights issue.
On a lighter note I came across a picture of someone holding a sign that said, “My guns won’t be illegal. They’ll be undocumented.”
Wow. I am a gun owner and in no way am I over the top possessed by guns. It is a Constitutional right that I choose to exercise. And for those that may be ‘over the top’ you cannot legislate how people think or feel. Maybe you can explain why you are so rabidly anti-gun? AND, gun confiscation really is not a solution. By definition criminals ignore laws. Do you really think they will turn in their guns because the government asks them nicely?
The UK is asking nicely, again, for folks to turn in their guns:
https://news.sky.com/story/firearms-amne...r-11124745
“national figures revealed the number of crimes involving firearms in England and Wales increased by 27% to 6,696 in the year ending June 2017.”
Gun confiscation by force by the government thereby trampling on a Constitutional right (trampling on the 2nd Amendment and violating the 4th Amendment) is the very reason the founders felt it important the populace be armed. As terracore pointed out, it is protection against tyranny. Madison covered it in Federalist 46 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._46) and Jefferson said, "“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
With that said, the right to bear arms is not exactly the same as CCW. I do not have an issue with CCW in general – I think Hawaii is too restrictive, but I don’t think they should be passed out like candy either. The States do have reciprocity for Driver Licenses and drivers kill more folks every year than lawful gun owners do. However, I can see an argument that this is a State's rights issue.
On a lighter note I came across a picture of someone holding a sign that said, “My guns won’t be illegal. They’ll be undocumented.”