09-02-2018, 01:20 AM
Some of you guys are being deliberately ignorant and hostile again, and that always terminates my aloha. Why didn't you snip this bit too?
"Ruggles said she is still carrying out other duties of her office, including asking the Federal Emergency Management Agency if Hawaiian Acres can receive funding to repair private roads damaged by Hurricane Lane.
However, she won’t be introducing bills and resolutions, believing that could constitute a war crime."
Also, you guys didn't seem to read the article. She's not invoking US law, but you guys are bringing up US law decisions.
"She raised the issue after Keanu Sai, whose website says he is the kingdom’s acting council of regency, sent a letter to elected officials. It contained a memorandum from Alfred deZayas, identified as an independent expert to the United Nations, that characterized the islands as a “sovereign nation-state in continuity.”
Basically, a consultant for the UN identifies Hawai'i not as a state of the US, but as a “sovereign nation-state in continuity.” Hawai'i was never legally introduced into the US with the proper paperwork, so, strictly legally speaking, this is actually correct.
That being the case, certain international laws then apply, and a citizen of America on illegal land enacting bills and resolutions would then constitute war crimes, seeing as how the aptly named Bayonet Constitution was enacted while the Honolulu Rifle Corp was very much in play.
With all that said, the chance of the UN going "Hey, America! you leave Hawai'i be!" and America actually doing that, I just don't see it. So, this relegates Jen's position into a purely moral one. If you want to criticize her about holding up the measure to require the county to transition to eco-friendly alternatives to certain herbicides, for example, feel free.
I won't be mad, you have a right. She is taking a moral stand over attending to the practical day to day, and you know what? It would be immoral not to voice your complaints, the present needs tending to. Siddhartha, the book, it is correct when it speaks on the middle path, and Jen may be straying too far down the path of moral purity, like when Siddhartha first became an ascetic. However, the legal chain is actually broken, as a fact.
Technically, Jen is correct that introducing new bills/resolutions is a war crime. So.... I don't know what to say, myself. Personally, I think attending to stuff like eco-friendly herbicides is more important as it has an immediate, real impact. On the other hand, I can understand how it would be impossible to ignore the illegal chain of a government making decisions where they shouldn't be. I don't envy her, either way, she loses. If she sides with her morals, the people will crap on her, and if she doesn't, she sells out her message. I do respect her stand, though. Very few politicians are willing to take a moral stand, because of aforementioned people-crapping-on-you reasons.
"Ruggles said she is still carrying out other duties of her office, including asking the Federal Emergency Management Agency if Hawaiian Acres can receive funding to repair private roads damaged by Hurricane Lane.
However, she won’t be introducing bills and resolutions, believing that could constitute a war crime."
Also, you guys didn't seem to read the article. She's not invoking US law, but you guys are bringing up US law decisions.
"She raised the issue after Keanu Sai, whose website says he is the kingdom’s acting council of regency, sent a letter to elected officials. It contained a memorandum from Alfred deZayas, identified as an independent expert to the United Nations, that characterized the islands as a “sovereign nation-state in continuity.”
Basically, a consultant for the UN identifies Hawai'i not as a state of the US, but as a “sovereign nation-state in continuity.” Hawai'i was never legally introduced into the US with the proper paperwork, so, strictly legally speaking, this is actually correct.
That being the case, certain international laws then apply, and a citizen of America on illegal land enacting bills and resolutions would then constitute war crimes, seeing as how the aptly named Bayonet Constitution was enacted while the Honolulu Rifle Corp was very much in play.
With all that said, the chance of the UN going "Hey, America! you leave Hawai'i be!" and America actually doing that, I just don't see it. So, this relegates Jen's position into a purely moral one. If you want to criticize her about holding up the measure to require the county to transition to eco-friendly alternatives to certain herbicides, for example, feel free.
I won't be mad, you have a right. She is taking a moral stand over attending to the practical day to day, and you know what? It would be immoral not to voice your complaints, the present needs tending to. Siddhartha, the book, it is correct when it speaks on the middle path, and Jen may be straying too far down the path of moral purity, like when Siddhartha first became an ascetic. However, the legal chain is actually broken, as a fact.
Technically, Jen is correct that introducing new bills/resolutions is a war crime. So.... I don't know what to say, myself. Personally, I think attending to stuff like eco-friendly herbicides is more important as it has an immediate, real impact. On the other hand, I can understand how it would be impossible to ignore the illegal chain of a government making decisions where they shouldn't be. I don't envy her, either way, she loses. If she sides with her morals, the people will crap on her, and if she doesn't, she sells out her message. I do respect her stand, though. Very few politicians are willing to take a moral stand, because of aforementioned people-crapping-on-you reasons.
Aloha 