11-30-2018, 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by leilanidude
She signed the documents...
Under Hawaiian Kingdom law as a constitutional monarchy, the queen cannot "give up" the land. Procedures were not followed.
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
show me the treaty
riversnout -
I have a question for you. When you look at the current leaders in the Hawaiian Sovereignty movement, from the Kingdom of Hawaii to the Hawaiian Kingdom, to "The Protectors", the Trask sisters, people who offered testimony at the TMT hearings, DHHL, OHA trustees - - who among them, or which group among them would you like to see as the legitimate monarch or political leaders for a New Hawaii? What are their abilities, their top accomplishments, that provides you with confidence that they could lead an independent nation in the 21st century?
Excellent question, I don't have an answer for you. But first things first. 1 - Is the US illegally occupying the islands? Yes. 2 - How is this situation going to be remedied and what is the final outcome? I have no idea.
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Originally posted by randomq
Riversnout, did Kamehameha have the proper treaties when he slaughtered and murdered to take control of the islands? The (now nonexistent) kingdom might never have been legitimate to begin with!
Get rid of all nation states since the dawn of the agricultural revolution? Fine by me.