05-10-2019, 04:31 PM
Paul;, I did not state to CALL on the phone, as that information is not public, I stated to contact the owners....(note the plural use of owners)... of course they still may not answer your letter, & most likely will not allow you access, but that is the proper way to gain access... & after studying with a prof. that has access to many properties around Hawaii Island, I can tell you that if you have a good request backed with awesome credentials, you can get access to many private lands here, LEGALLY, by requesting in writing...
It also seems some posters here have no clue that the people who own the land STILL HAVE LIABILITY... no matter how desolate the land is....same as an "abandoned" home... if ANYONE, gets hurt on their land, they probably will have liability issues... (but of course, no one ever considers the high probability of getting hurt while taking newbies on a new shelly/a`a mix lava flow with humoungous rifts...)
At this point, if they want to hike lava, the National Park has miles of trails that you do not need to ask permission & backcountry areas to hike that you do need to ask permission for ( but they have an office for that!) Go enjoy the lands that your taxes have paid for...
And of course, Yet again Paul has proven that the people that have posted on Punaweb wanting access to other lands that are not theirs (including the private road to private home at Haena) are ones that are never willing to allow other people that they do not know to come on to their land (funny how with the Haena lands the excuse was that the one that wanted access had less desirable & valuable land than the landowner, & Pauls excuse is that the land he wants access to is less desirable than Pauls land....... Surprise!Surprise!...
Any time you want to do something on someones else property, that you are not totally positive about, just ask the question about what you would want with your land, your own willingness, or unwillingness is probably the best guide...
It also seems some posters here have no clue that the people who own the land STILL HAVE LIABILITY... no matter how desolate the land is....same as an "abandoned" home... if ANYONE, gets hurt on their land, they probably will have liability issues... (but of course, no one ever considers the high probability of getting hurt while taking newbies on a new shelly/a`a mix lava flow with humoungous rifts...)
At this point, if they want to hike lava, the National Park has miles of trails that you do not need to ask permission & backcountry areas to hike that you do need to ask permission for ( but they have an office for that!) Go enjoy the lands that your taxes have paid for...
And of course, Yet again Paul has proven that the people that have posted on Punaweb wanting access to other lands that are not theirs (including the private road to private home at Haena) are ones that are never willing to allow other people that they do not know to come on to their land (funny how with the Haena lands the excuse was that the one that wanted access had less desirable & valuable land than the landowner, & Pauls excuse is that the land he wants access to is less desirable than Pauls land....... Surprise!Surprise!...
Any time you want to do something on someones else property, that you are not totally positive about, just ask the question about what you would want with your land, your own willingness, or unwillingness is probably the best guide...