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1819 versus 1893
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Random- Hawaii was not recognized as a sovereign state at the time of Kamehameha I.

Also the US has admitted to illegally backing the coup. Thus bringing in international law.

Now if your argument is might makes right I have no argument. But if you're going by law, international and US law, then Hawaii is occupied.

Ironyak- there were customary international laws dictating how to acquire sovereignty. Also the Constitution is there to limit the governments power. The powers of Congress are listed in Article I, Section 8, and Congress may not exercise any not power listed there.

Same with the President. His powers are explicitly stated.
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1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-21-2019, 07:18 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Punatic007 - 07-21-2019, 07:35 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 07:48 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-21-2019, 08:04 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-21-2019, 08:23 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by glinda - 07-21-2019, 08:33 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 08:37 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by randomq - 07-21-2019, 08:42 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-21-2019, 08:48 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 08:54 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-21-2019, 09:15 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-21-2019, 09:28 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by EightFingers - 07-22-2019, 05:03 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by glinda - 07-22-2019, 05:20 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by MarkP - 07-22-2019, 06:28 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-22-2019, 06:56 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by glinda - 07-22-2019, 07:11 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Frank - 07-22-2019, 07:14 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-22-2019, 07:46 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by bananahead - 07-22-2019, 08:43 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by bananahead - 07-22-2019, 08:47 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-22-2019, 11:48 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by geochem - 07-22-2019, 01:09 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by VancouverIslander - 07-22-2019, 01:45 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-22-2019, 01:53 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by geochem - 07-23-2019, 04:09 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by glinda - 07-23-2019, 04:22 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by MarkP - 07-23-2019, 04:55 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by snorkle - 07-23-2019, 06:00 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 06:20 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 06:39 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 06:42 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-23-2019, 06:47 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 06:51 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by randomq - 07-23-2019, 08:40 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 09:16 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-23-2019, 10:01 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 10:12 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 10:48 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by reni - 07-23-2019, 02:53 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by randomq - 07-23-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 04:26 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by reni - 07-23-2019, 04:32 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by Kaimana - 07-23-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-23-2019, 05:00 PM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by VancouverIslander - 07-25-2019, 02:33 AM
RE: 1819 versus 1893 - by ironyak - 07-25-2019, 03:26 AM

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