08-07-2019, 08:01 PM
Iron- I'm honestly more confused now than I was before looking into the 2/3rds present issue.
A two-thirds majority means that the number of votes for a proposition or candidate must equal or exceed twice the number of votes against it. If unqualified, two-thirds majority by itself always means simple two-thirds majority.
An absolute two-thirds majority means that two-thirds of the entire membership of a body or more must agree to the proposition. It is much stronger than a simple requirement.
https://ballotpedia.org/Supermajority
Common supermajorities
A majority vote, or more than half the votes cast, is a common voting basis. Instead of the basis of a majority, a supermajority can be specified using any fraction or percentage which is greater than one-half (i.e., 50%).[5] It can also be called a qualified majority.[6] Common supermajorities include three fifths (60%), two thirds (67%), and three quarters (75%).
Two-thirds vote
A two-thirds vote, when unqualified, means two-thirds or more of the votes cast.[7][8][9] This voting basis is equivalent to the number of votes in favor being at least twice the number of votes against.[10] Abstentions and absences are excluded in calculating a two-thirds vote.[8]
The two-thirds requirement can be qualified to include the entire membership of a body instead of only those present and voting, but such a requirement must be explicitly stated (such as "two-thirds of those members duly elected and sworn").[7] In this case, abstentions and absences count as votes against the proposal. Alternatively, the voting requirement could be specified as "two-thirds of those present", which has the effect of counting abstentions but not absences as votes against the proposal.[11]
For example, if an organization has 150 members and at a meeting, 30 members are present with 25 votes cast, a "two-thirds vote" would be 17. If the requirement was "two-thirds of those present", that number would be 20. "Two-thirds of the entire membership" would be 100.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermajor...hirds_vote
Now I'm not too sure how valid ballotpedia is and I know to take wiki with a grain of salt, but those are the most detailed explanations I could find. I also looked over both links you sent and I could not find anything dealing with this in them. Did I miss something?
An absolute two-thirds majority means that two-thirds of the entire membership of a body or more must agree to the proposition. It is much stronger than a simple requirement.
https://ballotpedia.org/Supermajority
Common supermajorities
A majority vote, or more than half the votes cast, is a common voting basis. Instead of the basis of a majority, a supermajority can be specified using any fraction or percentage which is greater than one-half (i.e., 50%).[5] It can also be called a qualified majority.[6] Common supermajorities include three fifths (60%), two thirds (67%), and three quarters (75%).
Two-thirds vote
A two-thirds vote, when unqualified, means two-thirds or more of the votes cast.[7][8][9] This voting basis is equivalent to the number of votes in favor being at least twice the number of votes against.[10] Abstentions and absences are excluded in calculating a two-thirds vote.[8]
The two-thirds requirement can be qualified to include the entire membership of a body instead of only those present and voting, but such a requirement must be explicitly stated (such as "two-thirds of those members duly elected and sworn").[7] In this case, abstentions and absences count as votes against the proposal. Alternatively, the voting requirement could be specified as "two-thirds of those present", which has the effect of counting abstentions but not absences as votes against the proposal.[11]
For example, if an organization has 150 members and at a meeting, 30 members are present with 25 votes cast, a "two-thirds vote" would be 17. If the requirement was "two-thirds of those present", that number would be 20. "Two-thirds of the entire membership" would be 100.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermajor...hirds_vote
Now I'm not too sure how valid ballotpedia is and I know to take wiki with a grain of salt, but those are the most detailed explanations I could find. I also looked over both links you sent and I could not find anything dealing with this in them. Did I miss something?