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PaulW

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#150

08-20-2019, 03:16 PM

"achieve what you want without harming our community"

How does building a telescope "harm the community"? Quite the opposite.

"They were here first". What if it turned out that they were not here first? Then the telescope is okay?

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Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-08-2019, 06:49 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 08-08-2019, 07:20 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-08-2019, 07:23 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 08-08-2019, 07:42 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-08-2019, 07:51 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by MarkP - 08-08-2019, 10:48 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-09-2019, 01:32 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Durian Fiend - 08-09-2019, 02:24 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Guest - 08-09-2019, 03:27 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-09-2019, 03:58 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-09-2019, 04:20 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by snorkle - 08-09-2019, 04:23 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-09-2019, 04:51 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-09-2019, 05:13 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by snorkle - 08-09-2019, 07:35 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by MattKarma - 08-09-2019, 07:53 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-09-2019, 08:27 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-09-2019, 08:29 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by snorkle - 08-09-2019, 09:07 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by leilanidude - 08-09-2019, 09:29 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-09-2019, 09:31 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by reni - 08-09-2019, 09:34 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-09-2019, 09:36 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-09-2019, 09:40 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-09-2019, 09:40 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by SBH - 08-09-2019, 09:41 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-09-2019, 09:43 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 08-09-2019, 09:43 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by SBH - 08-09-2019, 09:44 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by MarkP - 08-09-2019, 09:46 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-09-2019, 09:51 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-09-2019, 09:52 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-09-2019, 09:58 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by snorkle - 08-09-2019, 10:36 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-09-2019, 10:42 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Punatic007 - 08-09-2019, 11:04 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-09-2019, 11:23 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-09-2019, 11:40 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-09-2019, 11:44 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by dan d - 08-09-2019, 12:09 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-09-2019, 01:16 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-09-2019, 02:54 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-09-2019, 03:32 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-09-2019, 05:12 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-09-2019, 07:22 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-10-2019, 04:48 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-11-2019, 03:22 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ElysianWort - 08-11-2019, 07:40 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Guest - 08-11-2019, 03:20 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-11-2019, 03:29 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by birdmove - 08-11-2019, 03:32 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-11-2019, 03:43 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Punatic007 - 08-11-2019, 03:50 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Punatic007 - 08-11-2019, 03:52 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-11-2019, 04:18 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-11-2019, 04:36 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Punatic007 - 08-11-2019, 04:51 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-11-2019, 05:01 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-11-2019, 05:02 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by dan d - 08-11-2019, 05:05 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-11-2019, 05:18 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Punaperson - 08-11-2019, 06:21 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by MarkP - 08-11-2019, 08:41 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by PaulW - 08-12-2019, 02:32 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-12-2019, 02:36 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by leilanidude - 08-12-2019, 02:47 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-12-2019, 02:53 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-12-2019, 03:29 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by PaulW - 08-12-2019, 03:33 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-12-2019, 03:53 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-12-2019, 05:15 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-12-2019, 02:22 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Guest - 08-12-2019, 02:52 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-12-2019, 04:09 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-12-2019, 07:45 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-13-2019, 03:17 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-13-2019, 03:26 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-13-2019, 04:55 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-13-2019, 07:02 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-13-2019, 07:11 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Punaperson - 08-13-2019, 10:37 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-13-2019, 11:48 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-13-2019, 12:51 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by MarkP - 08-13-2019, 12:54 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-13-2019, 01:05 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-13-2019, 04:01 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-13-2019, 04:09 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-13-2019, 04:12 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-13-2019, 06:03 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-15-2019, 07:10 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalianna - 08-15-2019, 07:37 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-15-2019, 07:42 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Jimbo2017 - 08-15-2019, 10:51 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-16-2019, 02:49 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-16-2019, 03:13 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-16-2019, 03:18 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Frank - 08-16-2019, 03:22 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-16-2019, 03:31 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Chunkster - 08-16-2019, 03:41 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-16-2019, 03:42 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by geochem - 08-16-2019, 04:16 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by RoGo - 08-16-2019, 04:29 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-16-2019, 04:31 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Guest - 08-16-2019, 05:28 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-16-2019, 05:44 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-16-2019, 05:51 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by geochem - 08-16-2019, 06:05 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-16-2019, 06:08 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-16-2019, 06:25 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-16-2019, 09:52 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-16-2019, 10:32 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by knieft - 08-16-2019, 10:37 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-16-2019, 10:38 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Tink - 08-16-2019, 11:23 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-16-2019, 12:09 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by birdmove - 08-16-2019, 12:26 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by knieft - 08-16-2019, 12:27 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-16-2019, 12:34 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by KeaauRich - 08-16-2019, 01:14 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-16-2019, 01:28 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by BillyB - 08-16-2019, 01:35 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-16-2019, 02:39 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-16-2019, 02:55 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-16-2019, 03:39 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-16-2019, 03:42 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-16-2019, 03:48 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-16-2019, 04:22 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-16-2019, 04:55 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-16-2019, 07:00 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-16-2019, 07:12 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Jimbo2017 - 08-19-2019, 08:31 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by dan d - 08-20-2019, 12:49 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-20-2019, 09:43 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Chunkster - 08-20-2019, 10:03 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-20-2019, 10:27 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-20-2019, 10:38 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Punatic007 - 08-20-2019, 11:13 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-20-2019, 11:48 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Chunkster - 08-20-2019, 11:59 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-20-2019, 12:11 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by riversnout - 08-20-2019, 12:39 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by riversnout - 08-20-2019, 12:44 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Chunkster - 08-20-2019, 12:46 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-20-2019, 01:09 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-20-2019, 01:34 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by riversnout - 08-20-2019, 02:08 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by reni - 08-20-2019, 02:17 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-20-2019, 02:26 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-20-2019, 03:14 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by PaulW - 08-20-2019, 03:16 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-20-2019, 03:39 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-20-2019, 04:39 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-20-2019, 05:11 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-20-2019, 05:24 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-20-2019, 05:31 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-20-2019, 08:20 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by dan d - 08-20-2019, 11:03 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-21-2019, 02:33 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-21-2019, 03:26 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-22-2019, 04:31 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-22-2019, 04:51 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-25-2019, 04:42 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Obie - 08-26-2019, 10:50 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by rainyjim - 08-27-2019, 12:09 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by dan d - 08-27-2019, 02:10 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalianna - 08-27-2019, 06:14 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by macuu222 - 08-27-2019, 11:48 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-27-2019, 12:42 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by reni - 08-27-2019, 02:02 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-27-2019, 03:19 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-27-2019, 03:36 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-27-2019, 03:50 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-27-2019, 04:11 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 08-27-2019, 04:18 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-27-2019, 04:20 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-27-2019, 04:38 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Obie - 08-28-2019, 12:24 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-28-2019, 03:34 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-28-2019, 05:44 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-28-2019, 06:05 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-28-2019, 06:59 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ironyak - 08-30-2019, 02:48 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-30-2019, 09:41 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 08-31-2019, 02:56 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by dan d - 08-31-2019, 05:04 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Punatic007 - 08-31-2019, 09:00 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-31-2019, 10:37 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 08-31-2019, 08:03 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-01-2019, 04:25 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-01-2019, 04:40 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 09-01-2019, 05:00 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-01-2019, 05:17 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by EightFingers - 09-01-2019, 07:26 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Obie - 09-01-2019, 11:27 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 09-01-2019, 01:38 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-01-2019, 05:37 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-03-2019, 09:21 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-03-2019, 10:48 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 09-03-2019, 11:12 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-03-2019, 11:12 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-03-2019, 05:21 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-03-2019, 05:33 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalianna - 09-03-2019, 07:42 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-03-2019, 09:04 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Obie - 09-04-2019, 12:46 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 09-04-2019, 01:39 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by ElysianWort - 09-04-2019, 02:50 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-04-2019, 03:11 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-04-2019, 04:05 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-04-2019, 04:44 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by leilanidude - 09-04-2019, 05:18 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-04-2019, 05:47 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-04-2019, 05:52 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-04-2019, 06:17 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-04-2019, 06:26 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by EightFingers - 09-04-2019, 06:16 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-04-2019, 06:38 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-04-2019, 06:57 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-04-2019, 08:13 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-04-2019, 10:04 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 09-05-2019, 12:46 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Chunkster - 09-05-2019, 02:06 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-05-2019, 03:27 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-05-2019, 04:55 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by EightFingers - 09-05-2019, 04:59 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-05-2019, 05:09 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-05-2019, 08:35 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-05-2019, 10:11 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by lisa - 09-05-2019, 05:03 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-05-2019, 07:19 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2019, 06:01 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2019, 06:05 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Obie - 09-06-2019, 06:07 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-06-2019, 06:39 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-06-2019, 07:09 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2019, 07:12 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by macuu222 - 09-06-2019, 07:22 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2019, 08:23 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-06-2019, 08:44 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Peter Epperson - 09-06-2019, 02:04 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-06-2019, 03:19 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Pilgrim - 09-06-2019, 03:23 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2019, 03:47 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 09-06-2019, 03:58 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 09-06-2019, 04:00 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-06-2019, 04:14 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-06-2019, 05:09 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-06-2019, 05:18 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-06-2019, 05:25 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-06-2019, 05:29 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-06-2019, 06:19 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-06-2019, 07:29 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by MarkP - 09-06-2019, 09:51 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by randomq - 09-07-2019, 02:58 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-07-2019, 03:25 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalianna - 09-07-2019, 06:50 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by Kaimana - 09-07-2019, 06:54 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-07-2019, 08:26 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-07-2019, 08:38 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by bystander - 09-07-2019, 02:13 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-07-2019, 08:08 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by LazyLehua - 09-08-2019, 01:36 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by kalakoa - 09-08-2019, 04:47 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-08-2019, 03:26 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-09-2019, 06:09 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-10-2019, 08:05 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-12-2019, 04:44 AM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-12-2019, 12:29 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by TomK - 09-12-2019, 04:29 PM

RE: Access to Mauna Kea - by EightFingers - 09-12-2019, 04:52 PM

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